Messages in vintageHO group. Page 1 of 1.

Group: vintageHO Message: 20726 From: Fred Hultberg Date: 1/1/2013
Subject: Re: Intro
Group: vintageHO Message: 20727 From: erieberk@wmconnect.com Date: 1/1/2013
Subject: Re: Intro and Continued Seasons Greetings
Group: vintageHO Message: 20728 From: Jim Heckard Date: 1/1/2013
Subject: Still here
Group: vintageHO Message: 20729 From: Jim Heckard Date: 1/1/2013
Subject: rwrite some info
Group: vintageHO Message: 20730 From: Richard Carbo Date: 1/1/2013
Subject: Re: rwrite some info
Group: vintageHO Message: 20731 From: Dennis Thompson Date: 1/1/2013
Subject: Re: Still here
Group: vintageHO Message: 20732 From: John Hagen Date: 1/1/2013
Subject: Re: [yardbirdtrains] write some info
Group: vintageHO Message: 20733 From: cwrailman Date: 1/1/2013
Subject: Re: Box Car Build Using Printed Car Sides now completed
Group: vintageHO Message: 20734 From: Glenn Date: 1/1/2013
Subject: odd car
Group: vintageHO Message: 20735 From: Mike Bauers Date: 1/1/2013
Subject: Some Paul Moore
Group: vintageHO Message: 20736 From: Wally Date: 1/1/2013
Subject: A 4 wheel switch engine Amercian Flyer?
Group: vintageHO Message: 20737 From: Jim Heckard Date: 1/1/2013
Subject: Knapp passenger
Group: vintageHO Message: 20738 From: John Hagen Date: 1/1/2013
Subject: Re: A 4 wheel switch engine Amercian Flyer?
Group: vintageHO Message: 20739 From: Glenn Date: 1/1/2013
Subject: Re: Knapp passenger [3 Attachments]
Group: vintageHO Message: 20740 From: Jim Heckard Date: 1/2/2013
Subject: 4 wheel switch engine
Group: vintageHO Message: 20741 From: Sean Naylor Date: 1/2/2013
Subject: Re: Intro
Group: vintageHO Message: 20742 From: DOM ST.JOHN Date: 1/2/2013
Subject: Re: 4 wheel switch engine [2 Attachments]
Group: vintageHO Message: 20743 From: Glenn Date: 1/2/2013
Subject: part needed
Group: vintageHO Message: 20744 From: raul@wi.rr.com Date: 1/2/2013
Subject: Re: part needed
Group: vintageHO Message: 20745 From: raul@wi.rr.com Date: 1/2/2013
Subject: Re: 4 wheel switch engine Parts
Group: vintageHO Message: 20746 From: John Webster Date: 1/2/2013
Subject: Re: Box Car Build Using Printed Car Sides now completed
Group: vintageHO Message: 20747 From: cwrailman Date: 1/2/2013
Subject: Re: Box Car Build Using Printed Car Sides now completed
Group: vintageHO Message: 20748 From: Jim Heckard Date: 1/3/2013
Subject: Re: 4 wheel switch engine
Group: vintageHO Message: 20749 From: John Hagen Date: 1/3/2013
Subject: Re: 4 wheel switch engine
Group: vintageHO Message: 20750 From: Jim Heckard Date: 1/3/2013
Subject: Re: 4 wheel switch engine
Group: vintageHO Message: 20751 From: jay matz Date: 1/3/2013
Subject: Re: 4 wheel switch engine
Group: vintageHO Message: 20752 From: Jacob Bechtel Date: 1/3/2013
Subject: Re: 4 wheel switch engine
Group: vintageHO Message: 20753 From: Rick Jones Date: 1/3/2013
Subject: The Zephyr
Group: vintageHO Message: 20754 From: DOM ST.JOHN Date: 1/3/2013
Subject: Re: 4 wheel switch engine
Group: vintageHO Message: 20755 From: tom leen Date: 1/3/2013
Subject: Re: The Zephyr
Group: vintageHO Message: 20756 From: Glenn Date: 1/4/2013
Subject: part
Group: vintageHO Message: 20757 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 1/4/2013
Subject: Re: part
Group: vintageHO Message: 20758 From: Glenn Date: 1/4/2013
Subject: Re: part
Group: vintageHO Message: 20759 From: Victor Bitleris Date: 1/4/2013
Subject: Re: part
Group: vintageHO Message: 20760 From: Alan Kilby Date: 1/4/2013
Subject: Re: part
Group: vintageHO Message: 20761 From: Glenn Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: part
Group: vintageHO Message: 20763 From: Richard Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: part
Group: vintageHO Message: 20764 From: Rick Jones Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: part
Group: vintageHO Message: 20765 From: Richard Carbo Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: Mistakes on naming Gilbert or Lionel
Group: vintageHO Message: 20766 From: Bill Pittman Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: odd car
Group: vintageHO Message: 20767 From: 23weldon Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: part
Group: vintageHO Message: 20768 From: john.allyn@comcast.net Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: part
Group: vintageHO Message: 20769 From: Chuck Higdon Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: Mistakes on naming Gilbert or Lionel
Group: vintageHO Message: 20770 From: Mike Bauers Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: part
Group: vintageHO Message: 20771 From: nvrr49@yahoo.com Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: part
Group: vintageHO Message: 20772 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: part
Group: vintageHO Message: 20773 From: Sean Naylor Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Mystery GG1
Group: vintageHO Message: 20774 From: Glenn Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: part
Group: vintageHO Message: 20775 From: Glenn Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: part
Group: vintageHO Message: 20776 From: Glenn Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: odd car
Group: vintageHO Message: 20777 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: part
Group: vintageHO Message: 20778 From: Glenn Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: part
Group: vintageHO Message: 20779 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: part
Group: vintageHO Message: 20780 From: jerrygart5 Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: Mistakes on naming Gilbert or Lionel
Group: vintageHO Message: 20781 From: hooligan Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: Mistakes on naming Gilbert or Lionel
Group: vintageHO Message: 20782 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Walthers Roofs
Group: vintageHO Message: 20783 From: Don Dellmann Date: 1/6/2013
Subject: Re: Walthers Roofs
Group: vintageHO Message: 20784 From: Sean Naylor Date: 1/6/2013
Subject: Re: [yardbirdtrains] Mystery GG1
Group: vintageHO Message: 20785 From: Richard White Date: 1/6/2013
Subject: Re: Walthers Roofs
Group: vintageHO Message: 20786 From: john.allyn@comcast.net Date: 1/6/2013
Subject: Re: Walthers Roofs
Group: vintageHO Message: 20787 From: Chuck Higdon Date: 1/6/2013
Subject: Re: Walthers Roofs
Group: vintageHO Message: 20788 From: Mike Bauers Date: 1/6/2013
Subject: Re: Walthers Roofs
Group: vintageHO Message: 20789 From: ckinzer@att.net Date: 1/6/2013
Subject: Unusual plated diesel sold on ebay
Group: vintageHO Message: 20790 From: MRLENGAL2U@aol.com Date: 1/7/2013
Subject: Re: Unusual plated diesel sold on ebay
Group: vintageHO Message: 20791 From: Howard R Garner Date: 1/7/2013
Subject: Re: Unusual plated diesel sold on ebay
Group: vintageHO Message: 20792 From: Richard White Date: 1/7/2013
Subject: Re: Walthers Roofs
Group: vintageHO Message: 20793 From: Jim Heckard Date: 1/7/2013
Subject: F-units
Group: vintageHO Message: 20794 From: Carl Date: 1/7/2013
Subject: Re: Walthers Roofs
Group: vintageHO Message: 20795 From: Jacob Bechtel Date: 1/7/2013
Subject: Re: F-units [4 Attachments]
Group: vintageHO Message: 20796 From: erieberk@wmconnect.com Date: 1/9/2013
Subject: Re: Unusual plated diesel sold on ebay
Group: vintageHO Message: 20797 From: Jack Kelley Date: 1/9/2013
Subject: Re: Athearn 1960's Pacifics
Group: vintageHO Message: 20798 From: vancampbell64 Date: 1/13/2013
Subject: Athearn dual-drive parts.
Group: vintageHO Message: 20799 From: vancampbell64 Date: 1/13/2013
Subject: Re: 0-6-0 Athearn drive gear
Group: vintageHO Message: 20800 From: lewis.ted16 Date: 1/20/2013
Subject: JC Silversides kits
Group: vintageHO Message: 20801 From: cwrailman Date: 1/21/2013
Subject: The Best Power Tool Deal in Town
Group: vintageHO Message: 20802 From: river_dweller_ohio Date: 1/23/2013
Subject: FW:Hello!
Group: vintageHO Message: 20803 From: cwrailman Date: 1/26/2013
Subject: Re: The Best Power Tool Deal in Town
Group: vintageHO Message: 20804 From: cwrailman Date: 1/28/2013
Subject: Vintage Brass Gem Birdey Locomotive
Group: vintageHO Message: 20805 From: RalphB Date: 1/29/2013
Subject: Re: MKD-4 couplers
Group: vintageHO Message: 20806 From: Jim Heckard Date: 1/29/2013
Subject: Varney Winning Bid
Group: vintageHO Message: 20807 From: Victor Bitleris Date: 1/29/2013
Subject: Re: MKD-4 couplers
Group: vintageHO Message: 20808 From: Howard R Garner Date: 1/29/2013
Subject: KaDee #4
Group: vintageHO Message: 20809 From: Chuck Higdon Date: 1/29/2013
Subject: Re: Varney Winning Bid [1 Attachment]
Group: vintageHO Message: 20810 From: erieberk Date: 1/29/2013
Subject: Re: Varney Winning Bid [1 Attachment]
Group: vintageHO Message: 20811 From: shawmut_fan Date: 1/30/2013
Subject: Re: MKD-4 couplers
Group: vintageHO Message: 20812 From: Jim Heckard Date: 1/30/2013
Subject: Re: Varney Winning Bid
Group: vintageHO Message: 20813 From: Victor Bitleris Date: 1/30/2013
Subject: Re: MKD-4 couplers
Group: vintageHO Message: 20814 From: Lon Walker Date: 1/30/2013
Subject: hey
Group: vintageHO Message: 20815 From: shawmut_fan Date: 1/30/2013
Subject: Re: MKD-4 couplers
Group: vintageHO Message: 20816 From: Howard R Garner Date: 1/30/2013
Subject: Re: KaDee #4
Group: vintageHO Message: 20817 From: corlissbs Date: 1/31/2013
Subject: Funeral Sale?
Group: vintageHO Message: 20818 From: Mike Bauers Date: 1/31/2013
Subject: New - Old find
Group: vintageHO Message: 20819 From: Rick Jones Date: 1/31/2013
Subject: Re: Funeral Sale?
Group: vintageHO Message: 20820 From: Matt Martin Date: 1/31/2013
Subject: FS: Freight Cars (Atlas, Walthers, Red Caboose)
Group: vintageHO Message: 20821 From: Steven D Johnson Date: 2/1/2013
Subject: Re: Funeral Sale?
Group: vintageHO Message: 20822 From: luvprr2003 Date: 2/1/2013
Subject: Re: Funeral Sale?
Group: vintageHO Message: 20823 From: CinderCrusher Date: 2/1/2013
Subject: Re: Funeral Sale?
Group: vintageHO Message: 20824 From: RalphB Date: 2/1/2013
Subject: Re: Funeral Sale?
Group: vintageHO Message: 20825 From: Sean Naylor Date: 2/2/2013
Subject: Instructions needed for MRC SOUND MASTER 210 SOUND MACHINE
Group: vintageHO Message: 20826 From: cwrailman Date: 2/2/2013
Subject: Re: Funeral Sale?
Group: vintageHO Message: 20827 From: Mike Bauers Date: 2/3/2013
Subject: An interview and easy tutorial
Group: vintageHO Message: 20828 From: Mike Bauers Date: 2/3/2013
Subject: Won't ship to USA...
Group: vintageHO Message: 20829 From: corlissbs Date: 2/4/2013
Subject: Re: Won't ship to USA...
Group: vintageHO Message: 20830 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 2/4/2013
Subject: Re: Won't ship to USA...
Group: vintageHO Message: 20831 From: corlissbs Date: 2/4/2013
Subject: Re: Won't ship to USA...
Group: vintageHO Message: 20832 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 2/4/2013
Subject: Re: Won't ship to USA...
Group: vintageHO Message: 20833 From: cwrailman Date: 2/4/2013
Subject: Re: Won't ship to USA...
Group: vintageHO Message: 20834 From: Mr. Common Sense Date: 2/4/2013
Subject: Re: Won't ship to USA...
Group: vintageHO Message: 20835 From: dwaite2000 Date: 2/4/2013
Subject: Re: Won't ship to US
Group: vintageHO Message: 20836 From: Sean Naylor Date: 2/5/2013
Subject: Re: Funeral Sale?
Group: vintageHO Message: 20837 From: Sean Naylor Date: 2/5/2013
Subject: Re: Instructions needed for MRC SOUND MASTER 210 SOUND MACHINE [1 At
Group: vintageHO Message: 20838 From: Walter Bayer II Date: 2/5/2013
Subject: Re: Won't ship to USA...
Group: vintageHO Message: 20839 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 2/5/2013
Subject: Re: Won't ship to USA...
Group: vintageHO Message: 20840 From: Sean Naylor Date: 2/5/2013
Subject: Re: Won't ship to USA...
Group: vintageHO Message: 20841 From: Sean Naylor Date: 2/5/2013
Subject: Re: Won't ship to US
Group: vintageHO Message: 20842 From: reed.estabrook Date: 2/6/2013
Subject: Re: Won't ship to USA...
Group: vintageHO Message: 20843 From: johnhutnick Date: 2/6/2013
Subject: Walthers MU
Group: vintageHO Message: 20844 From: cwrailman Date: 2/6/2013
Subject: Running trains in Dual DC/DCC mode
Group: vintageHO Message: 20845 From: river_dweller_ohio Date: 2/7/2013
Subject: (no subject)
Group: vintageHO Message: 20846 From: Carl Date: 2/7/2013
Subject: Athearn Metal Side Reefer from 1949
Group: vintageHO Message: 20847 From: Rick Jones Date: 2/7/2013
Subject: Latest Find
Group: vintageHO Message: 20848 From: cwrailman Date: 2/7/2013
Subject: Re: Latest Find
Group: vintageHO Message: 20849 From: rxensen Date: 2/8/2013
Subject: Re: Athearn Metal Side Reefer from 1949
Group: vintageHO Message: 20850 From: erieberk Date: 2/8/2013
Subject: Re: Athearn Metal Side Reefer from 1949
Group: vintageHO Message: 20851 From: erieberk Date: 2/8/2013
Subject: Re: Athearn Metal Side Reefer from 1949
Group: vintageHO Message: 20852 From: erieberk Date: 2/9/2013
Subject: Re: Athearn Metal Side Reefer from 1949
Group: vintageHO Message: 20853 From: Carl Date: 2/9/2013
Subject: Re: Athearn Metal Side Reefer from 1949
Group: vintageHO Message: 20854 From: luvprr2003 Date: 2/9/2013
Subject: Walthers New Haven Coach
Group: vintageHO Message: 20855 From: Mike Bauers Date: 2/9/2013
Subject: Toonerville trolleys
Group: vintageHO Message: 20856 From: Brad Smith Date: 2/9/2013
Subject: Re: Toonerville trolleys
Group: vintageHO Message: 20857 From: lewis.ted16 Date: 2/9/2013
Subject: Trolley car
Group: vintageHO Message: 20858 From: oljoe Date: 2/10/2013
Subject: Re: Toonerville trolleys
Group: vintageHO Message: 20859 From: oljoe Date: 2/10/2013
Subject: Re: Toonerville trolleys
Group: vintageHO Message: 20860 From: Don Dellmann Date: 2/10/2013
Subject: Re: Trolley car
Group: vintageHO Message: 20861 From: Walter Bayer II Date: 2/10/2013
Subject: Re: Toonerville trolleys
Group: vintageHO Message: 20862 From: ablecynic Date: 2/10/2013
Subject: Re: Toonerville trolleys
Group: vintageHO Message: 20863 From: gbwdude Date: 2/10/2013
Subject: Re: Toonerville trolleys
Group: vintageHO Message: 20864 From: oljoe Date: 2/10/2013
Subject: Re: Toonerville trolleys
Group: vintageHO Message: 20865 From: oljoe Date: 2/10/2013
Subject: Re: Toonerville trolleys
Group: vintageHO Message: 20866 From: Sean Naylor Date: 2/10/2013
Subject: Re: Toonerville trolleys
Group: vintageHO Message: 20867 From: John Hagen Date: 2/10/2013
Subject: Re: Toonerville trolleys
Group: vintageHO Message: 20868 From: corlissbs Date: 2/11/2013
Subject: Re: Trolley car
Group: vintageHO Message: 20869 From: CinderCrusher Date: 2/11/2013
Subject: Re: Toonerville trolleys
Group: vintageHO Message: 20870 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 2/12/2013
Subject: Window Plastic for old cars
Group: vintageHO Message: 20871 From: Don Dellmann Date: 2/13/2013
Subject: Re: Window Plastic for old cars
Group: vintageHO Message: 20872 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 2/13/2013
Subject: Re: Window Plastic for old cars
Group: vintageHO Message: 20873 From: ho_in_hancock Date: 2/14/2013
Subject: Re: Window Plastic for old cars
Group: vintageHO Message: 20874 From: Donald R. Staton Date: 2/14/2013
Subject: 02/14/13 - C&O 3 INCH SCALE RIDE-IN CABOOSE & DON STATON
Group: vintageHO Message: 20875 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 2/14/2013
Subject: Re: Window Plastic for old cars
Group: vintageHO Message: 20876 From: ho_in_hancock Date: 2/15/2013
Subject: Re: Window Plastic for old cars
Group: vintageHO Message: 20877 From: al45390 Date: 2/19/2013
Subject: Westinghouse 3E control valve & Franklin T-35 generator
Group: vintageHO Message: 20878 From: Model RailRoad Warehouse Date: 2/20/2013
Subject: Re: Westinghouse 3E control valve & Franklin T-35 generator
Group: vintageHO Message: 20879 From: Walter Bayer II Date: 2/20/2013
Subject: Re: Westinghouse 3E control valve & Franklin T-35 generator
Group: vintageHO Message: 20880 From: cwrailman Date: 2/23/2013
Subject: Making a RTR Mantua General really RTR
Group: vintageHO Message: 20881 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 2/23/2013
Subject: Re: Making a RTR Mantua General really RTR
Group: vintageHO Message: 20882 From: Mike Bauers Date: 2/24/2013
Subject: Winans Camel
Group: vintageHO Message: 20883 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 2/24/2013
Subject: Re: Winans Camel
Group: vintageHO Message: 20884 From: Richard Dipping Date: 2/24/2013
Subject: Re: Winans Camel
Group: vintageHO Message: 20885 From: gnryfan Date: 2/24/2013
Subject: Arbour Models Allegheny 2-6-6-6 Instruction sheets
Group: vintageHO Message: 20886 From: Riverboy Date: 2/24/2013
Subject: Re: Arbour Models Allegheny 2-6-6-6 Instruction sheets
Group: vintageHO Message: 20887 From: gnryfan Date: 2/25/2013
Subject: Re: Arbour Models Allegheny 2-6-6-6 Instruction sheets
Group: vintageHO Message: 20888 From: Riverboy Date: 2/25/2013
Subject: Re: Arbour Models Allegheny 2-6-6-6 Instruction sheets
Group: vintageHO Message: 20889 From: luvprr2003 Date: 2/25/2013
Subject: Re: Arbour Models Allegheny 2-6-6-6 Instruction sheets
Group: vintageHO Message: 20890 From: Mike Bauers Date: 2/25/2013
Subject: Re: Arbour Models Allegheny 2-6-6-6 Instruction sheets
Group: vintageHO Message: 20891 From: Mike Bauers Date: 2/25/2013
Subject: Winan's 4-6-0 Camelback
Group: vintageHO Message: 20892 From: Victor Bitleris Date: 2/26/2013
Subject: Re: Winan's 4-6-0 Camelback
Group: vintageHO Message: 20893 From: cwrailman Date: 2/27/2013
Subject: Re: Making a RTR Mantua General really RTR REVISED New and Improved
Group: vintageHO Message: 20894 From: frank Date: 2/27/2013
Subject: 75 years of Model Railroader/plug
Group: vintageHO Message: 20895 From: John Hagen Date: 2/27/2013
Subject: Re: 75 years of Model Railroader/plug
Group: vintageHO Message: 20896 From: Mike Bauers Date: 2/27/2013
Subject: Re: 75 years of Model Railroader/plug
Group: vintageHO Message: 20897 From: Bill Nielsen Date: 2/28/2013
Subject: Anyone remember Russell Mobi-Models Drawbridge kits?
Group: vintageHO Message: 20898 From: Jim Heckard Date: 3/1/2013
Subject: pre war Varney Electric
Group: vintageHO Message: 20899 From: Mike Bauers Date: 3/1/2013
Subject: Fwd: [narrowmilitaryrail] 1c. Re: Scale Link 1:32 Pechot-Bourdon Kit
Group: vintageHO Message: 20900 From: vancampbell64 Date: 3/2/2013
Subject: Athearn Train Set 4322
Group: vintageHO Message: 20901 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 3/2/2013
Subject: HOSeeker Site issues?
Group: vintageHO Message: 20902 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 3/2/2013
Subject: Re: HOSeeker Site issues?
Group: vintageHO Message: 20903 From: James Bartelt Date: 3/2/2013
Subject: 18th ANNUAL MODEL TRAIN SHOW & SWAP MEET CEDARBURG, WI 3-10-2013
Group: vintageHO Message: 20904 From: johnhutnick Date: 3/2/2013
Subject: Pechot-Bourdon
Group: vintageHO Message: 20905 From: vancampbell64 Date: 3/3/2013
Subject: Re: HOSeeker Site issues?
Group: vintageHO Message: 20906 From: cwrailman Date: 3/5/2013
Subject: Looking for info on a children’s book
Group: vintageHO Message: 20907 From: Walter Bayer II Date: 3/5/2013
Subject: Re: [vintageHO] Looking for info on a children’s book
Group: vintageHO Message: 20908 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 3/5/2013
Subject: Re: [vintageHO] Looking for info on a children’s book
Group: vintageHO Message: 20909 From: cwrailman Date: 3/6/2013
Subject: Re: Looking for info on a children's book
Group: vintageHO Message: 20910 From: Richard Dipping Date: 3/6/2013
Subject: Re: Looking for info on a children's book
Group: vintageHO Message: 20911 From: wdavis5069 Date: 3/6/2013
Subject: Re: Looking for info on a children’s book
Group: vintageHO Message: 20912 From: vancampbell64 Date: 3/6/2013
Subject: Athearn Yellow Box Era Couplers
Group: vintageHO Message: 20913 From: Glenn Date: 3/7/2013
Subject: Re: Athearn Yellow Box Era Couplers
Group: vintageHO Message: 20914 From: Glenn Date: 3/7/2013
Subject: Re: Athearn Yellow Box Era Couplers
Group: vintageHO Message: 20915 From: Jim Waterman Date: 3/7/2013
Subject: Re: Looking for info on a children’s book
Group: vintageHO Message: 20916 From: Walter Bayer II Date: 3/7/2013
Subject: Re: [vintageHO] Re: Looking for info on a children’s book
Group: vintageHO Message: 20917 From: bitlerisvj Date: 3/8/2013
Subject: eBay listing for Tenshodo 0-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 20918 From: Gary Mittner Date: 3/8/2013
Subject: Re: eBay listing for Tenshodo 0-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 20919 From: dwaite2000 Date: 3/8/2013
Subject: Re: eBay listing for Tenshodo 0-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 20920 From: Victor Bitleris Date: 3/8/2013
Subject: Re: eBay listing for Tenshodo 0-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 20921 From: cwrailman Date: 3/8/2013
Subject: Re: eBay listing for Tenshodo 0-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 20922 From: Victor Bitleris Date: 3/8/2013
Subject: Re: eBay listing for Tenshodo 0-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 20923 From: cwrailman Date: 3/8/2013
Subject: Re: eBay listing for Tenshodo 0-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 20924 From: cwrailman Date: 3/8/2013
Subject: Re: eBay listing for Tenshodo 0-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 20925 From: Victor Bitleris Date: 3/8/2013
Subject: Re: eBay listing for Tenshodo 0-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 20926 From: Richard Carbo Date: 3/8/2013
Subject: Re: eBay listing for Tenshodo 0-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 20927 From: cwrailman Date: 3/8/2013
Subject: Re: eBay listing for Tenshodo 0-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 20928 From: Glenn Date: 3/8/2013
Subject: Re: eBay listing for Tenshodo 0-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 20929 From: James Bartelt Date: 3/9/2013
Subject: 18th ANNUAL MODEL TRAIN SHOW & SWAP MEET CEDARBURG, WI 3-10-2013
Group: vintageHO Message: 20930 From: Nelson Date: 3/9/2013
Subject: Re: eBay listing for Tenshodo 0-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 20931 From: Nelson Date: 3/9/2013
Subject: Re: eBay listing for Tenshodo 0-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 20932 From: Don Dellmann Date: 3/10/2013
Subject: Latest project
Group: vintageHO Message: 20933 From: Gary Mittner Date: 3/11/2013
Subject: The John Wilkes
Group: vintageHO Message: 20934 From: apo09324 Date: 3/11/2013
Subject: Re: Athearn Yellow Box Era Couplers
Group: vintageHO Message: 20935 From: Nelson Date: 3/12/2013
Subject: Re: The John Wilkes
Group: vintageHO Message: 20936 From: vancampbell64 Date: 3/12/2013
Subject: Re: Athearn Yellow Box Era Couplers
Group: vintageHO Message: 20937 From: Sean Naylor Date: 3/14/2013
Subject: Re: eBay listing for Tenshodo 0-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 20938 From: Charles Date: 3/14/2013
Subject: Re: eBay listing for Tenshodo 0-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 20939 From: shawmut_fan Date: 3/14/2013
Subject: Re: eBay listing for Tenshodo 0-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 20940 From: cwrailman Date: 3/14/2013
Subject: Re: eBay listing for Tenshodo 0-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 20941 From: Jim Heckard Date: 3/14/2013
Subject: Still Here
Group: vintageHO Message: 20942 From: John Hagen Date: 3/14/2013
Subject: Re: [yardbirdtrains] Still Here
Group: vintageHO Message: 20943 From: Sean Naylor Date: 3/14/2013
Subject: Re: eBay listing for Tenshodo 0-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 20944 From: Richard Carbo Date: 3/14/2013
Subject: Re: [yardbirdtrains] Still Here
Group: vintageHO Message: 20945 From: Walter Bayer II Date: 3/14/2013
Subject: For my chocolate loving friends
Group: vintageHO Message: 20947 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 3/14/2013
Subject: Re: For my chocolate loving friends
Group: vintageHO Message: 20948 From: Dale Smith Date: 3/15/2013
Subject: Re: [SFMuniHistory] (unknown)
Group: vintageHO Message: 20949 From: Richard Carbo Date: 3/15/2013
Subject: Re: For my chocolate loving friends
Group: vintageHO Message: 20950 From: Jim Ruef Date: 3/15/2013
Subject: Re: For my chocolate loving friends
Group: vintageHO Message: 20951 From: frank Date: 3/15/2013
Subject: Re: eBay listing for Tenshodo 0-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 20952 From: Charles Date: 3/15/2013
Subject: Re: eBay listing for Tenshodo 0-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 20953 From: Walter Bayer II Date: 3/15/2013
Subject: Fixing an old power tool, a Dremel Model #2
Group: vintageHO Message: 20954 From: Glenn Date: 3/15/2013
Subject: Re: Fixing an old power tool, a Dremel Model #2
Group: vintageHO Message: 20955 From: Sean Naylor Date: 3/15/2013
Subject: Re: eBay listing for Tenshodo 0-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 20956 From: ablecynic Date: 3/16/2013
Subject: Re: eBay listing for Tenshodo 0-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 20957 From: trainliker Date: 3/16/2013
Subject: Re: eBay listing for Tenshodo 0-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 20958 From: ablecynic Date: 3/16/2013
Subject: Re: eBay listing for Tenshodo 0-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 20959 From: trainliker Date: 3/16/2013
Subject: Re: eBay listing for Tenshodo 0-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 20960 From: cwrailman Date: 3/18/2013
Subject: Re: eBay listing for Tenshodo 0-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 20961 From: ablecynic Date: 3/19/2013
Subject: Re: eBay listing for Tenshodo 0-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 20962 From: cwrailman Date: 3/19/2013
Subject: Re: eBay listing for Tenshodo 0-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 20963 From: ablecynic Date: 3/19/2013
Subject: Re: eBay listing for Tenshodo 0-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 20964 From: cwrailman Date: 3/19/2013
Subject: Re: eBay listing for Tenshodo 0-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 20965 From: Mr Larry L. Doub Date: 3/20/2013
Subject: Re: Fixing an old power tool, a Dremel Model #2
Group: vintageHO Message: 20966 From: Walter Bayer II Date: 3/20/2013
Subject: Re: Fixing an old power tool, a Dremel Model #2
Group: vintageHO Message: 20967 From: Dennis Thompson Date: 3/20/2013
Subject: Re: Fixing an old power tool, a Dremel Model #2
Group: vintageHO Message: 20968 From: don lemas Date: 3/20/2013
Subject: Re: Fixing an old power tool, a Dremel Model #2
Group: vintageHO Message: 20969 From: Don Dellmann Date: 3/20/2013
Subject: Re: Fixing an old power tool, a Dremel Model #2
Group: vintageHO Message: 20970 From: cwrailman Date: 3/20/2013
Subject: Re: Fixing an old power tool, a Dremel Model #2
Group: vintageHO Message: 20971 From: vancampbell64 Date: 3/23/2013
Subject: Athearn Early 60's Era Gear Drive
Group: vintageHO Message: 20972 From: Glenn Date: 3/23/2013
Subject: Re: Athearn Early 60's Era Gear Drive
Group: vintageHO Message: 20973 From: vancampbell64 Date: 3/24/2013
Subject: Re: Athearn Early 60's Era Gear Drive
Group: vintageHO Message: 20974 From: lewis.ted16 Date: 3/24/2013
Subject: Re: Athearn Early 60's Era Gear Drive
Group: vintageHO Message: 20975 From: Mike Bauers Date: 3/24/2013
Subject: Re: Athearn Early 60's Era Gear Drive
Group: vintageHO Message: 20976 From: Dennis Thompson Date: 3/25/2013
Subject: Train Show Varney salvage
Group: vintageHO Message: 20977 From: larry Smith Date: 3/25/2013
Subject: Current RMC
Group: vintageHO Message: 20978 From: Mike Date: 3/25/2013
Subject: Re: Current RMC
Group: vintageHO Message: 20979 From: Sean Naylor Date: 3/25/2013
Subject: Re: Train Show Varney salvage
Group: vintageHO Message: 20980 From: Nelson Date: 3/25/2013
Subject: Re: Athearn Early 60's Era Gear Drive
Group: vintageHO Message: 20981 From: Nelson Date: 3/25/2013
Subject: Re: Athearn Early 60's Era Gear Drive
Group: vintageHO Message: 20982 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 3/25/2013
Subject: Re: Athearn Early 60's Era Gear Drive
Group: vintageHO Message: 20983 From: cwrailman Date: 3/25/2013
Subject: Reworking a Vintage 2-8-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 20984 From: Dennis Thompson Date: 3/25/2013
Subject: Re: Train Show Varney salvage
Group: vintageHO Message: 20985 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 3/25/2013
Subject: Re: Train Show Varney salvage
Group: vintageHO Message: 20986 From: Dennis Thompson Date: 3/25/2013
Subject: Re: Train Show Varney salvage
Group: vintageHO Message: 20987 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 3/25/2013
Subject: Re: Train Show Varney salvage
Group: vintageHO Message: 20988 From: Dennis Thompson Date: 3/25/2013
Subject: Re: Train Show Varney salvage
Group: vintageHO Message: 20989 From: Dennis Thompson Date: 3/25/2013
Subject: trouble registering at tycoforums...
Group: vintageHO Message: 20990 From: dave sandulli Date: 3/26/2013
Subject: Gerber Billboard reefers
Group: vintageHO Message: 20991 From: corlissbs Date: 3/26/2013
Subject: Re: Gerber Billboard reefers
Group: vintageHO Message: 20992 From: William Anderson Date: 3/26/2013
Subject: Re: trouble registering at tycoforums...
Group: vintageHO Message: 20993 From: corlissbs Date: 3/26/2013
Subject: Re: trouble registering at tycoforums...
Group: vintageHO Message: 20994 From: tom bell Date: 3/26/2013
Subject: Re: trouble registering at tycoforums...
Group: vintageHO Message: 20995 From: corlissbs Date: 3/26/2013
Subject: Re: trouble registering at tycoforums...
Group: vintageHO Message: 20996 From: Dennis Thompson Date: 3/26/2013
Subject: Re: trouble registering at tycoforums...
Group: vintageHO Message: 20997 From: vancampbell64 Date: 3/26/2013
Subject: Re: Athearn Early 60's Era Gear Drive
Group: vintageHO Message: 20998 From: vancampbell64 Date: 3/26/2013
Subject: Re: Athearn Early 60's Era Gear Drive
Group: vintageHO Message: 20999 From: dave sandulli Date: 3/26/2013
Subject: Re: Gerber Billboard reefers
Group: vintageHO Message: 21000 From: rcjge Date: 3/26/2013
Subject: Re: trouble registering at tycoforums...
Group: vintageHO Message: 21001 From: Sean Naylor Date: 3/27/2013
Subject: Fw: William Morrison
Group: vintageHO Message: 21002 From: dave sandulli Date: 3/27/2013
Subject: Re: Gerber Billboard reefers
Group: vintageHO Message: 21003 From: Brad Smith Date: 3/27/2013
Subject: Re: Gerber Billboard reefers
Group: vintageHO Message: 21004 From: sottguy Date: 3/27/2013
Subject: Re: Current RMC
Group: vintageHO Message: 21005 From: Glenn Date: 3/27/2013
Subject: Re: Gerber Billboard reefers
Group: vintageHO Message: 21006 From: Jim Waterman Date: 3/28/2013
Subject: Re: Fw: William Morrison
Group: vintageHO Message: 21007 From: Richard Date: 3/28/2013
Subject: Re: Current RMC
Group: vintageHO Message: 21008 From: cwrailman Date: 3/28/2013
Subject: Mantua Pacific 4-6-2 Kit for sale
Group: vintageHO Message: 21009 From: cwrailman Date: 3/28/2013
Subject: Re: Mantua Pacific 4-6-2 Kit has been SOLD
Group: vintageHO Message: 21010 From: g3mag63 Date: 3/28/2013
Subject: G5 steam chest
Group: vintageHO Message: 21011 From: Dennis Thompson Date: 3/28/2013
Subject: Tnx for comments on my Varney Rescue photos posted, well....
Group: vintageHO Message: 21012 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 3/28/2013
Subject: Re: Tnx for comments on my Varney Rescue photos posted, well....
Group: vintageHO Message: 21013 From: Dennis Thompson Date: 3/28/2013
Subject: Re: Tnx for comments on my Varney Rescue photos posted, well....
Group: vintageHO Message: 21014 From: Sean Naylor Date: 3/29/2013
Subject: Re: Tnx for comments on my Varney Rescue photos posted, well....
Group: vintageHO Message: 21015 From: sottguy Date: 3/29/2013
Subject: Re: Current RMC
Group: vintageHO Message: 21016 From: topstokes Date: 3/29/2013
Subject: Rivarossi 2-6-6-6 help
Group: vintageHO Message: 21017 From: Donald R. Staton Date: 3/29/2013
Subject: Re: Rivarossi 2-6-6-6 help
Group: vintageHO Message: 21018 From: prandn Date: 3/30/2013
Subject: Does Anyone Know........
Group: vintageHO Message: 21019 From: stephenlengal Date: 3/31/2013
Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know........
Group: vintageHO Message: 21020 From: sswcharlie Date: 3/31/2013
Subject: HOSeeker - Athearn Page - Turbo Express
Group: vintageHO Message: 21021 From: sswcharlie Date: 3/31/2013
Subject: HOSeeker - Baby Turbine HO - Peterson? Athearn ?
Group: vintageHO Message: 21022 From: Mike Bauers Date: 3/31/2013
Subject: Re: HOSeeker - Athearn Page - Turbo Express
Group: vintageHO Message: 21023 From: corlissbs Date: 3/31/2013
Subject: Re: HOSeeker - Athearn Page - Turbo Express
Group: vintageHO Message: 21024 From: Mike Bauers Date: 3/31/2013
Subject: Re: HOSeeker - Athearn Page - Turbo Express
Group: vintageHO Message: 21025 From: Richard Date: 3/31/2013
Subject: Re: Current RMC
Group: vintageHO Message: 21026 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 3/31/2013
Subject: Re: Tnx for comments on my Varney Rescue photos posted, well....
Group: vintageHO Message: 21027 From: tom bell Date: 3/31/2013
Subject: Re: HOSeeker - Athearn Page - Turbo Express
Group: vintageHO Message: 21028 From: Mike Bauers Date: 4/1/2013
Subject: Re: HOSeeker - Athearn Page - Turbo Express
Group: vintageHO Message: 21029 From: corlissbs Date: 4/1/2013
Subject: Re: HOSeeker - Athearn Page - Turbo Express
Group: vintageHO Message: 21030 From: Victor Bitleris Date: 4/1/2013
Subject: Re: Current RMC
Group: vintageHO Message: 21031 From: Dennis Thompson Date: 4/1/2013
Subject: Re: Tnx for comments on my Varney Rescue photos posted, well....
Group: vintageHO Message: 21032 From: Sean Naylor Date: 4/1/2013
Subject: Re: Tnx for comments on my Varney Rescue photos posted, well....
Group: vintageHO Message: 21033 From: Sean Naylor Date: 4/1/2013
Subject: Re: Tnx for comments on my Varney Rescue photos posted, well....
Group: vintageHO Message: 21034 From: Sean Naylor Date: 4/1/2013
Subject: Re: Tnx for comments on my Varney Rescue photos posted, well.... [1
Group: vintageHO Message: 21035 From: Donald R. Staton Date: 4/1/2013
Subject: Re: Tnx for comments on my Varney Rescue photos posted, well....
Group: vintageHO Message: 21036 From: Richard Dipping Date: 4/1/2013
Subject: Re: Tnx for comments on my Varney Rescue photos posted, well....
Group: vintageHO Message: 21037 From: Dennis Thompson Date: 4/1/2013
Subject: Re: Tnx for comments on my Varney Rescue photos posted, well.... [1
Group: vintageHO Message: 21038 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 4/1/2013
Subject: Re: Tnx for comments on my Varney Rescue photos posted, well....
Group: vintageHO Message: 21039 From: Sean Naylor Date: 4/1/2013
Subject: Re: Tnx for comments on my Varney Rescue photos posted, well....
Group: vintageHO Message: 21040 From: Donald R. Staton Date: 4/1/2013
Subject: Re: Tnx for comments on my Varney Rescue photos posted, well....
Group: vintageHO Message: 21041 From: Donald R. Staton Date: 4/1/2013
Subject: Re: Tnx for comments on my Varney Rescue photos posted, well....
Group: vintageHO Message: 21042 From: johnhutnick Date: 4/1/2013
Subject: Atlas 12" track
Group: vintageHO Message: 21043 From: Don Dellmann Date: 4/1/2013
Subject: Re: Atlas 12" track
Group: vintageHO Message: 21044 From: ablecynic Date: 4/2/2013
Subject: Re: Atlas 12" track
Group: vintageHO Message: 21045 From: johnhutnick Date: 4/2/2013
Subject: Re: Atlas 12" track
Group: vintageHO Message: 21046 From: leetrains Date: 4/2/2013
Subject: Re: Atlas 12" track
Group: vintageHO Message: 21047 From: Sean Naylor Date: 4/2/2013
Subject: Re: Atlas 12" track
Group: vintageHO Message: 21048 From: Jacob Bechtel Date: 4/2/2013
Subject: Re: Atlas 12" track
Group: vintageHO Message: 21049 From: Don Dellmann Date: 4/2/2013
Subject: Re: Atlas 12" track
Group: vintageHO Message: 21050 From: ablecynic Date: 4/3/2013
Subject: Re: Atlas 12" track
Group: vintageHO Message: 21051 From: Don Dellmann Date: 4/3/2013
Subject: Re: Atlas 12" track
Group: vintageHO Message: 21052 From: Jacob Bechtel Date: 4/3/2013
Subject: Re: Atlas 12" track
Group: vintageHO Message: 21053 From: cwrailman Date: 4/3/2013
Subject: Re: Atlas 12" track and small locomotives
Group: vintageHO Message: 21054 From: Walter Bayer II Date: 4/3/2013
Subject: Re: Atlas 12" track and small locomotives
Group: vintageHO Message: 21055 From: cwrailman Date: 4/3/2013
Subject: Re: Atlas 12" track and small locomotives
Group: vintageHO Message: 21056 From: John Hutnick Date: 4/3/2013
Subject: Re: Atlas 12" track
Group: vintageHO Message: 21057 From: William Higgins Date: 4/3/2013
Subject: Re: Atlas 12" track
Group: vintageHO Message: 21058 From: Askerberg Date: 4/4/2013
Subject: Re: Atlas 12" track
Group: vintageHO Message: 21059 From: cwrailman Date: 4/4/2013
Subject: Re: Atlas 12" track
Group: vintageHO Message: 21060 From: louis niederlander Date: 4/4/2013
Subject: Re: Atlas 12" track
Group: vintageHO Message: 21061 From: Jacob Bechtel Date: 4/4/2013
Subject: Re: Atlas 12" track and small locomotives
Group: vintageHO Message: 21062 From: cwrailman Date: 4/4/2013
Subject: Re: Atlas 12" track and small locomotives
Group: vintageHO Message: 21063 From: nico Date: 4/5/2013
Subject: Re: Tnx for comments on my Varney Rescue photos posted, well....
Group: vintageHO Message: 21064 From: corlissbs Date: 4/5/2013
Subject: Re: Atlas 12" track and small locomotives
Group: vintageHO Message: 21065 From: Joe Date: 4/5/2013
Subject: Re: Atlas 12" track and small locomotives
Group: vintageHO Message: 21066 From: Wally Weart Date: 4/5/2013
Subject: Re: Atlas 12" track
Group: vintageHO Message: 21067 From: Dennis Thompson Date: 4/5/2013
Subject: Re: Tnx for comments on my Varney Rescue photos posted, well....
Group: vintageHO Message: 21068 From: cwrailman Date: 4/5/2013
Subject: Re: Atlas 12" track and small locomotives
Group: vintageHO Message: 21069 From: corlissbs Date: 4/6/2013
Subject: Re: Atlas 12" track and small locomotives
Group: vintageHO Message: 21070 From: Chuck Higdon Date: 4/6/2013
Subject: Re: Atlas 12" track and small locomotives
Group: vintageHO Message: 21071 From: Sean Naylor Date: 4/10/2013
Subject: Early 1937 Pre-Boiler Production Mantua 4-6-2 / 4-6-4 Chassis
Group: vintageHO Message: 21072 From: Jim Heckard Date: 4/13/2013
Subject: Still Hanging in and watching
Group: vintageHO Message: 21073 From: Donald R. Staton Date: 4/13/2013
Subject: Re: Still Hanging in and watching [1 Attachment]
Group: vintageHO Message: 21074 From: Chuck Higdon Date: 4/14/2013
Subject: Re: Still Hanging in and watching [1 Attachment]
Group: vintageHO Message: 21075 From: joeloh3 Date: 4/15/2013
Subject: New to Group
Group: vintageHO Message: 21076 From: luvprr2003 Date: 4/15/2013
Subject: Re: New to Group
Group: vintageHO Message: 21077 From: Don Dellmann Date: 4/15/2013
Subject: Re: New to Group
Group: vintageHO Message: 21078 From: bitlerisvj Date: 4/15/2013
Subject: Mantua Shark motor
Group: vintageHO Message: 21079 From: shawmut_fan Date: 4/15/2013
Subject: Re: Mantua Shark motor
Group: vintageHO Message: 21080 From: Victor Bitleris Date: 4/15/2013
Subject: Re: Mantua Shark motor
Group: vintageHO Message: 21081 From: shawmut_fan Date: 4/15/2013
Subject: Re: Mantua Shark motor
Group: vintageHO Message: 21082 From: Fred Hultberg Date: 4/16/2013
Subject: Re: New to Group
Group: vintageHO Message: 21083 From: cwrailman Date: 4/16/2013
Subject: Chicago Great Western 4-6-0 by Continental
Group: vintageHO Message: 21084 From: Joel Holmes Date: 4/16/2013
Subject: Re: New to Group
Group: vintageHO Message: 21085 From: gbwdude Date: 4/16/2013
Subject: Varney Casey Jones worm gear
Group: vintageHO Message: 21086 From: Joel Holmes Date: 4/16/2013
Subject: Re: New to Group
Group: vintageHO Message: 21087 From: cwrailman Date: 4/16/2013
Subject: Re: Varney Casey Jones worm gear
Group: vintageHO Message: 21088 From: Joel Holmes Date: 4/16/2013
Subject: Re: Varney Casey Jones worm gear
Group: vintageHO Message: 21089 From: rcjge Date: 4/16/2013
Subject: Re: Mantua Shark motor
Group: vintageHO Message: 21090 From: nico Date: 4/16/2013
Subject: Re: Early 1937 Pre-Boiler Production Mantua 4-6-2 / 4-6-4 Chassis
Group: vintageHO Message: 21091 From: Victor Bitleris Date: 4/17/2013
Subject: Re: Varney Casey Jones worm gear
Group: vintageHO Message: 21092 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 4/17/2013
Subject: Re: Varney Casey Jones worm gear
Group: vintageHO Message: 21093 From: Victor Bitleris Date: 4/17/2013
Subject: Re: Varney Casey Jones worm gear
Group: vintageHO Message: 21094 From: Don Dellmann Date: 4/17/2013
Subject: Re: Varney Casey Jones worm gear
Group: vintageHO Message: 21095 From: Victor Bitleris Date: 4/17/2013
Subject: Re: Varney Casey Jones worm gear
Group: vintageHO Message: 21096 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 4/17/2013
Subject: Re: Varney Casey Jones worm gear
Group: vintageHO Message: 21097 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 4/17/2013
Subject: Re: Varney Casey Jones worm gear
Group: vintageHO Message: 21098 From: cwrailman Date: 4/17/2013
Subject: Revival of a CGW 4-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 21099 From: Mike Bauers Date: 4/17/2013
Subject: A vintage Paul Moore
Group: vintageHO Message: 21100 From: Don Dellmann Date: 4/17/2013
Subject: Re: Varney Casey Jones worm gear
Group: vintageHO Message: 21101 From: Howard C. Taylor Date: 4/17/2013
Subject: Re: Varney Casey Jones worm gear
Group: vintageHO Message: 21102 From: Victor Bitleris Date: 4/17/2013
Subject: Re: Revival of a CGW 4-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 21103 From: cwrailman Date: 4/18/2013
Subject: Re: Revival of a CGW 4-6-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 21104 From: gbwdude Date: 4/18/2013
Subject: Re: Varney Casey Jones worm gear
Group: vintageHO Message: 21105 From: Jim Heckard Date: 4/19/2013
Subject: Roundhouse 0-6-0's
Group: vintageHO Message: 21106 From: gary Date: 4/20/2013
Subject: 1957-58 Revell Diesel
Group: vintageHO Message: 21107 From: Jim Ruef Date: 4/21/2013
Subject: Re: 1957-58 Revell Diesel
Group: vintageHO Message: 21108 From: vancampbell64 Date: 4/21/2013
Subject: Re: 1957-58 Revell Diesel
Group: vintageHO Message: 21109 From: gary pardue Date: 4/21/2013
Subject: Re: 1957-58 Revell Diesel
Group: vintageHO Message: 21110 From: gary pardue Date: 4/21/2013
Subject: Re: 1957-58 Revell Diesel
Group: vintageHO Message: 21111 From: bitlerisvj Date: 4/22/2013
Subject: Re: Mantua Shark motor
Group: vintageHO Message: 21112 From: erieberk Date: 4/22/2013
Subject: Re: Mantua Shark motor
Group: vintageHO Message: 21113 From: Victor Bitleris Date: 4/22/2013
Subject: Re: Mantua Shark motor
Group: vintageHO Message: 21114 From: Nelson Date: 4/23/2013
Subject: Re: Mantua Shark motor
Group: vintageHO Message: 21115 From: Victor Bitleris Date: 4/23/2013
Subject: Re: Mantua Shark motor
Group: vintageHO Message: 21116 From: bobbinbill229 Date: 4/23/2013
Subject: Made in Yugoslavia (AHM?) engines
Group: vintageHO Message: 21117 From: Charles Date: 4/23/2013
Subject: Re: Mantua Shark motor
Group: vintageHO Message: 21118 From: Victor Bitleris Date: 4/23/2013
Subject: Re: Made in Yugoslavia (AHM?) engines
Group: vintageHO Message: 21119 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 4/23/2013
Subject: Re: Made in Yugoslavia (AHM?) engines
Group: vintageHO Message: 21120 From: Alan Kilby Date: 4/23/2013
Subject: Re: Made in Yugoslavia (AHM?) engines
Group: vintageHO Message: 21121 From: Bill Scott Date: 4/23/2013
Subject: Re: Made in Yugoslavia (AHM?) engines
Group: vintageHO Message: 21122 From: Riverboy Date: 4/23/2013
Subject: Re: Mantua Shark motor
Group: vintageHO Message: 21123 From: Nelson Date: 4/23/2013
Subject: Re: Mantua Shark motor
Group: vintageHO Message: 21124 From: Victor Bitleris Date: 4/24/2013
Subject: Re: Mantua Shark motor
Group: vintageHO Message: 21125 From: gary pardue Date: 4/24/2013
Subject: Re: 1957-58 Revell Diesel
Group: vintageHO Message: 21126 From: Charles Date: 4/24/2013
Subject: Re: Mantua Shark motor
Group: vintageHO Message: 21127 From: vancampbell64 Date: 4/24/2013
Subject: Re: Mantua Shark motor
Group: vintageHO Message: 21128 From: Nelson Date: 4/24/2013
Subject: Re: Made in Yugoslavia (AHM?) engines
Group: vintageHO Message: 21129 From: Victor Bitleris Date: 4/25/2013
Subject: Re: Mantua Shark motor
Group: vintageHO Message: 21130 From: Carl Neste Date: 4/25/2013
Subject: Looking for kit instructions
Group: vintageHO Message: 21131 From: luvprr2003 Date: 4/25/2013
Subject: Re: Looking for kit instructions
Group: vintageHO Message: 21132 From: Carl Neste Date: 4/25/2013
Subject: Re: Looking for kit instructions
Group: vintageHO Message: 21133 From: Alan Date: 4/30/2013
Subject: DEVORE COUPLERS?
Group: vintageHO Message: 21134 From: rhbale8 Date: 4/30/2013
Subject: Re: DEVORE COUPLERS?
Group: vintageHO Message: 21135 From: Mike Bauers Date: 5/2/2013
Subject: Hybrid DL-109's
Group: vintageHO Message: 21136 From: Jim Heckard Date: 5/3/2013
Subject: want to buy
Group: vintageHO Message: 21137 From: Mike Bauers Date: 5/3/2013
Subject: Mantua Talgo Train streamliner
Group: vintageHO Message: 21138 From: Jim Heckard Date: 5/4/2013
Subject: Forget my want
Group: vintageHO Message: 21139 From: Fred Hultberg Date: 5/5/2013
Subject: Re: Forget My Want
Group: vintageHO Message: 21140 From: Jim Heckard Date: 5/5/2013
Subject: good laugh
Group: vintageHO Message: 21141 From: ratcatzdogz Date: 5/5/2013
Subject: Re: good laugh
Group: vintageHO Message: 21142 From: Richard Carbo Date: 5/5/2013
Subject: Re: good laugh
Group: vintageHO Message: 21143 From: jbark76 Date: 5/6/2013
Subject: Cary USRA Heavy Boiler Front
Group: vintageHO Message: 21144 From: Sean Naylor Date: 5/6/2013
Subject: Re: Cary USRA Heavy Boiler Front
Group: vintageHO Message: 21145 From: Donald R. Staton Date: 5/6/2013
Subject: Re: Cary USRA Heavy Boiler Front
Group: vintageHO Message: 21146 From: Geo Stahlberg Date: 5/6/2013
Subject: Re: Cary USRA Heavy Boiler Front
Group: vintageHO Message: 21147 From: John Hagen Date: 5/6/2013
Subject: Re: Cary USRA Heavy Boiler Front
Group: vintageHO Message: 21148 From: jbark76 Date: 5/6/2013
Subject: Re: Cary USRA Heavy Boiler Front
Group: vintageHO Message: 21149 From: Dennis Kunkel Date: 5/6/2013
Subject: Re: Cary USRA Heavy Boiler Front
Group: vintageHO Message: 21150 From: Donald R. Staton Date: 5/6/2013
Subject: Re: Cary USRA Heavy Boiler Front
Group: vintageHO Message: 21151 From: jbark76 Date: 5/6/2013
Subject: Re: Cary USRA Heavy Boiler Front
Group: vintageHO Message: 21152 From: Sean Naylor Date: 5/7/2013
Subject: Re: Cary USRA Heavy Boiler Front
Group: vintageHO Message: 21153 From: johnhutnick Date: 5/9/2013
Subject: 4-4-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 21154 From: Bill Scott Date: 5/9/2013
Subject: Re: 4-4-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 21155 From: Don Dellmann Date: 5/9/2013
Subject: Re: 4-4-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 21156 From: Walter Bayer II Date: 5/9/2013
Subject: Re: 4-4-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 21157 From: Sean Naylor Date: 5/9/2013
Subject: Re: Cary USRA Heavy Boiler Front
Group: vintageHO Message: 21158 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 5/9/2013
Subject: Re: 4-4-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 21159 From: louis niederlander Date: 5/10/2013
Subject: Re: cardboard box
Group: vintageHO Message: 21160 From: John Hagen Date: 5/10/2013
Subject: Re: cardboard box
Group: vintageHO Message: 21161 From: 23weldon Date: 5/10/2013
Subject: Re: 4-4-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 21162 From: cwrailman Date: 5/18/2013
Subject: Re: 4-4-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 21163 From: John H Date: 5/18/2013
Subject: Re: 4-4-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 21164 From: johnhutnick Date: 5/19/2013
Subject: Re: 4-4-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 21165 From: cwrailman Date: 5/20/2013
Subject: Re: 4-4-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 21166 From: rcjge Date: 5/20/2013
Subject: Bread on the water...
Group: vintageHO Message: 21167 From: Walter Bayer II Date: 5/21/2013
Subject: Fwd: [traintools] FWD: Floquil, Polly Scale, Pactra, ColorArtz paint
Group: vintageHO Message: 21168 From: Brad Smith Date: 5/21/2013
Subject: Re: Fwd: [traintools] FWD: Floquil, Polly Scale, Pactra, ColorArtz p
Group: vintageHO Message: 21169 From: Walter Bayer II Date: 5/21/2013
Subject: Re: Fwd: [traintools] FWD: Floquil, Polly Scale, Pactra, ColorArtz p
Group: vintageHO Message: 21170 From: John Hagen Date: 5/21/2013
Subject: Re: Fwd: [traintools] FWD: Floquil, Polly Scale, Pactra, ColorArtz p
Group: vintageHO Message: 21171 From: Walter Bayer II Date: 5/21/2013
Subject: Fwd: Notice of discontinuation
Group: vintageHO Message: 21172 From: Don Dellmann Date: 5/21/2013
Subject: Re: Fwd: [traintools] FWD: Floquil, Polly Scale, Pactra, ColorArtz p
Group: vintageHO Message: 21173 From: Rick Jones Date: 5/21/2013
Subject: Re: Fwd: Notice of discontinuation
Group: vintageHO Message: 21174 From: JP Barger Date: 5/21/2013
Subject: [STMFC] Unidentified HO reefer model
Group: vintageHO Message: 21175 From: Don Dellmann Date: 5/21/2013
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Unidentified HO reefer model
Group: vintageHO Message: 21176 From: Don Dellmann Date: 5/21/2013
Subject: Re: Fwd: Notice of discontinuation
Group: vintageHO Message: 21177 From: John Hutnick Date: 5/21/2013
Subject: Re: 4-4-0
Group: vintageHO Message: 21178 From: Walter Bayer II Date: 5/21/2013
Subject: Re: Fwd: Notice of discontinuation
Group: vintageHO Message: 21179 From: Mike Bauers Date: 5/22/2013
Subject: Re: Fwd: Notice of discontinuation
Group: vintageHO Message: 21180 From: larry Smith Date: 5/22/2013
Subject: Re: Fwd: Notice of discontinuation
Group: vintageHO Message: 21181 From: louis niederlander Date: 5/22/2013
Subject: Re: Fwd: Notice of discontinuation
Group: vintageHO Message: 21182 From: Rick Jones Date: 5/22/2013
Subject: Re: Fwd: Notice of discontinuation
Group: vintageHO Message: 21183 From: Brad Smith Date: 5/22/2013
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Subject: kemtron log cars?
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Subject: Photos: Golden Age Of Train Travel
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Subject: Floquil Alternatives Paint Chart
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Subject: Athearn Train Set Boxes
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Subject: A Project 35 Years In The Making!
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Subject: Flyer 5318 power
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Subject: Re: A Project 35 Years In The Making! [1 Attachment]
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Subject: Re: Mystery Custom Mantua 0-4-0 Booster Derek that I know I have see
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Subject: Vintage Athearn C&O F7-B Shell
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Subject: Using Tru scale switches with their remote and lindsay track spiker
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Subject: The Train Collectors Quarterly is soliciting HO articles
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Subject: Mantua 8 Balls for sale
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Subject: Chinese AIR-BUS plans over congested roads
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Subject: Re: Mantua 8 Ball plus 1947 Mantua HO Handbook for sale
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Subject: Re: Mantua 8 Ball plus 1947 Mantua HO Handbook for sale
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Subject: American Flyer Hudson available
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Subject: Reworking a Vintage 1950's era Brass 0-4-0
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Subject: Motor and Worm for Varney Streamliner
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Subject: More on Mantua 8 Ball
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Subject: Re: 0-4-0T HOn3 conversion from HO
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Subject: Re: 0-4-0T HOn3 conversion from HO
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Subject: Re: 0-4-0T HOn3 conversion from HO
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Subject: Re: 0-4-0T HOn3 conversion from HO
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Subject: Reference book about MDC/Roundhouse
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Subject: Need Main side rod for Rivarossi / Pocher 4-4-0
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Subject: Re: Reference book about MDC/Roundhouse
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Subject: Re: Red Ball
Group: vintageHO Message: 21317 From: Chris B Date: 8/3/2013
Subject: vintage HO brass boxcar kit CNJ by Custom Photo/Graphics of NY & Oh
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Subject: Re: Reference book about MDC/Roundhouse
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Subject: Mantua Parts Needed
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Subject: Re: Reference book about MDC/Roundhouse
Group: vintageHO Message: 21321 From: Joel Holmes Date: 8/4/2013
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Subject: Re: Reference book about MDC/Roundhouse
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Subject: Re: Red Ball
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Subject: Re: Mantua Part Needed
Group: vintageHO Message: 21326 From: Joel Holmes Date: 8/5/2013
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Group: vintageHO Message: 21327 From: vancampbell64 Date: 8/6/2013
Subject: 1960's Vintage Athearn "WMD" Sets
Group: vintageHO Message: 21328 From: gary Date: 8/6/2013
Subject: Revell SW7 1958
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Subject: A whack of stuff for sale....
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Subject: A Whack of stuff for sale List updated regularly
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Subject: Re: A Whack of stuff for sale List updated regularly
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Subject: Re: Why won't the IDIOTS at Yahoo allow postings to be EDITED!
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Subject: Re: Whack of stuff for sale list
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Subject: 8 Ball or Belle whither goest thy difference!!!?
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Subject: White sidewalls
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Subject: Re: 8 Ball or Belle whither goest thy difference!!!?
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Subject: Re: A Whack of stuff for sale List updated regularly
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Subject: Tyco passengers cars?s
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Subject: ID Vintage motor...?
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Subject: "Future Designs" 1938 HO R.I. Gas-Electric - What-the?
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Subject: Re: And Who Was Megow? (was:"Future Designs" 1938 HO R.I. Gas-Electr
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Group: vintageHO Message: 21643 From: rhbale8 Date: 11/17/2013
Subject: Ambroid/Northeastern
Group: vintageHO Message: 21644 From: Mike Bauers Date: 11/17/2013
Subject: Re: Today's train show Hobbytown E unit: questions....
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Group: vintageHO Message: 21646 From: Loren Martell Date: 11/17/2013
Subject: FS: FSM Un-assembled kits
Group: vintageHO Message: 21647 From: cwrailman Date: 11/18/2013
Subject: Re: Ambroid/Northeastern
Group: vintageHO Message: 21648 From: Walter Bayer II Date: 11/18/2013
Subject: Re: Today's train show Hobbytown E unit: questions....
Group: vintageHO Message: 21649 From: david_helber Date: 11/18/2013
Subject: Spring Belt Drives???
Group: vintageHO Message: 21650 From: mmattjcoleman Date: 11/19/2013
Subject: Re: Spring Belt Drives???
Group: vintageHO Message: 21651 From: david_helber Date: 11/19/2013
Subject: Re: Spring Belt Drives???
Group: vintageHO Message: 21652 From: jay matz Date: 11/19/2013
Subject: Re: Spring Belt Drives???
Group: vintageHO Message: 21653 From: Victor Bitleris Date: 11/19/2013
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Group: vintageHO Message: 21654 From: cwrailman Date: 11/19/2013
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Group: vintageHO Message: 21655 From: sswcharlie Date: 11/19/2013
Subject: MDC Roundhouse
Group: vintageHO Message: 21656 From: david_helber Date: 11/20/2013
Subject: Re: Spring Belt Drives???
Group: vintageHO Message: 21657 From: mmattjcoleman Date: 11/21/2013
Subject: Re: Spring Belt Drives???
Group: vintageHO Message: 21658 From: sswcharlie Date: 11/22/2013
Subject: Walthers Vintage Gas Electric - Parts
Group: vintageHO Message: 21659 From: Don Dellmann Date: 11/23/2013
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Group: vintageHO Message: 21660 From: John Hagen Date: 11/23/2013
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Group: vintageHO Message: 21662 From: Bill Scott Date: 11/23/2013
Subject: Re: Revell SW7 1958
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Group: vintageHO Message: 21668 From: sswcharlie Date: 11/25/2013
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Group: vintageHO Message: 21670 From: Charlie Date: 11/26/2013
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Group: vintageHO Message: 21671 From: Bill Porter Date: 11/27/2013
Subject: Lionel Husky Locos
Group: vintageHO Message: 21672 From: Mike Bauers Date: 11/27/2013
Subject: Re: Lionel Husky Locos
Group: vintageHO Message: 21673 From: Mike Bauers Date: 11/27/2013
Subject: Passenger trains
Group: vintageHO Message: 21674 From: Don Dellmann Date: 11/28/2013
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Group: vintageHO Message: 21675 From: Bill Porter Date: 11/28/2013
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Group: vintageHO Message: 21676 From: corlissbs Date: 11/28/2013
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Subject: Athearn Hustler
Group: vintageHO Message: 21682 From: Jacob Bechtel Date: 11/28/2013
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Group: vintageHO Message: 21683 From: corlissbs Date: 11/28/2013
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Group: vintageHO Message: 21685 From: Mike Date: 11/28/2013
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Group: vintageHO Message: 21686 From: Willard Seehorn Date: 11/29/2013
Subject: Ernest gears (was) Athearn Hustler
Group: vintageHO Message: 21687 From: Don Dellmann Date: 11/29/2013
Subject: Re: Ernest gears (was) Athearn Hustler
Group: vintageHO Message: 21688 From: Don Dellmann Date: 11/29/2013
Subject: Re: Lionel Husky Locos
Group: vintageHO Message: 21689 From: Don Dellmann Date: 11/29/2013
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Group: vintageHO Message: 21690 From: Bill Porter Date: 11/29/2013
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Group: vintageHO Message: 21691 From: oklacnw Date: 11/29/2013
Subject: Re: Lionel Husky
Group: vintageHO Message: 21692 From: mah644 Date: 11/29/2013
Subject: Re: Ernest gears (was) Athearn Hustler
Group: vintageHO Message: 21693 From: nvrr49@yahoo.com Date: 11/30/2013
Subject: FSM #155 Coal Dock
Group: vintageHO Message: 21694 From: Loren Martell Date: 11/30/2013
Subject: Re: Ernest gears (was) Athearn Hustler
Group: vintageHO Message: 21695 From: cwrailman Date: 12/1/2013
Subject: Lapping Drive Gears in Locomotives
Group: vintageHO Message: 21696 From: Rick Jones Date: 12/1/2013
Subject: Re: Lapping Drive Gears in Locomotives
Group: vintageHO Message: 21697 From: cwrailman Date: 12/1/2013
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Group: vintageHO Message: 21698 From: Rick Jones Date: 12/1/2013
Subject: Re: Lapping Drive Gears in Locomotives
Group: vintageHO Message: 21699 From: oklacnw Date: 12/1/2013
Subject: Re: Ernst Gears for Athearn Hustler
Group: vintageHO Message: 21700 From: cwrailman Date: 12/1/2013
Subject: Re: Lapping Drive Gears in Locomotives
Group: vintageHO Message: 21701 From: Jim Waterman Date: 12/2/2013
Subject: Re: Lapping Drive Gears in Locomotives
Group: vintageHO Message: 21702 From: Victor Bitleris Date: 12/2/2013
Subject: Re: Ernest gears (was) Athearn Hustler
Group: vintageHO Message: 21703 From: david_helber Date: 12/2/2013
Subject: Re: Spring Belt Drives???
Group: vintageHO Message: 21704 From: david_helber Date: 12/2/2013
Subject: Re: Spring Belt Drives???
Group: vintageHO Message: 21705 From: Loren Martell Date: 12/3/2013
Subject: Re: Ernest gears (was) Athearn Hustler
Group: vintageHO Message: 21706 From: jbark76 Date: 12/4/2013
Subject: Re: Spring Belt Drives???
Group: vintageHO Message: 21707 From: Garry Spear Date: 12/10/2013
Subject: Gorre & Daphetid Cars
Group: vintageHO Message: 21708 From: Dale Smith Date: 12/12/2013
Subject: Mantua switchers
Group: vintageHO Message: 21709 From: Mike Bauers Date: 12/15/2013
Subject: Mystery car sides
Group: vintageHO Message: 21710 From: Garry Spear Date: 12/16/2013
Subject: Re: Mystery car sides
Group: vintageHO Message: 21711 From: erieberk Date: 12/16/2013
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Group: vintageHO Message: 21713 From: erieberk Date: 12/16/2013
Subject: Re: Mantua switchers
Group: vintageHO Message: 21714 From: Richard Kurz Date: 12/16/2013
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Group: vintageHO Message: 21715 From: Larry Date: 12/16/2013
Subject: Re: Mystery car sides
Group: vintageHO Message: 21716 From: Donald R. Staton Date: 12/16/2013
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Group: vintageHO Message: 21717 From: Dale Smith Date: 12/16/2013
Subject: Re: Mantua switchers
Group: vintageHO Message: 21718 From: Mike Bauers Date: 12/16/2013
Subject: Re: Mystery car sides
Group: vintageHO Message: 21719 From: John Hagen Date: 12/16/2013
Subject: Re: Mantua switchers
Group: vintageHO Message: 21720 From: John Hagen Date: 12/16/2013
Subject: Re: Mystery car sides
Group: vintageHO Message: 21721 From: Don Dellmann Date: 12/16/2013
Subject: Re: Mystery car sides
Group: vintageHO Message: 21722 From: Dale Smith Date: 12/16/2013
Subject: Re: Mantua switchers
Group: vintageHO Message: 21723 From: Mike Bauers Date: 12/16/2013
Subject: Re: Mystery car sides
Group: vintageHO Message: 21724 From: oklacnw Date: 12/17/2013
Subject: Re: Sides
Group: vintageHO Message: 21725 From: raymarinaccio Date: 12/17/2013
Subject: One-of-a kind Athearn Pacific pre-production prototype
Group: vintageHO Message: 21726 From: erieberk Date: 12/18/2013
Subject: Re: Mantua switchers
Group: vintageHO Message: 21727 From: Dave Audley Date: 12/18/2013
Subject: Re: One-of-a kind Athearn Pacific pre-production prototype
Group: vintageHO Message: 21728 From: erieberk Date: 12/18/2013
Subject: Re: Mystery car sides
Group: vintageHO Message: 21729 From: corlissbs Date: 12/18/2013
Subject: Re: One-of-a kind Athearn Pacific pre-production prototype
Group: vintageHO Message: 21730 From: Dave Audley Date: 12/18/2013
Subject: Re: One-of-a kind Athearn Pacific pre-production prototype
Group: vintageHO Message: 21731 From: Mike Bauers Date: 12/18/2013
Subject: Re: Mystery car sides
Group: vintageHO Message: 21732 From: gssfhc_wvc Date: 12/18/2013
Subject: Penn Line T-1 Tender
Group: vintageHO Message: 21733 From: vancampbell64 Date: 12/18/2013
Subject: Re: One-of-a kind Athearn Pacific pre-production prototype
Group: vintageHO Message: 21734 From: erieberk Date: 12/19/2013
Subject: Re: Mystery car sides
Group: vintageHO Message: 21735 From: erieberk Date: 12/19/2013
Subject: Re: One-of-a kind Athearn Pacific pre-production prototype
Group: vintageHO Message: 21736 From: erieberk Date: 12/19/2013
Subject: Re: Penn Line T-1 Tender
Group: vintageHO Message: 21737 From: vancampbell64 Date: 12/19/2013
Subject: Re: One-of-a kind Athearn Pacific pre-production prototype
Group: vintageHO Message: 21738 From: Donald R. Staton Date: 12/19/2013
Subject: Re: One-of-a kind Athearn Pacific pre-production prototype
Group: vintageHO Message: 21739 From: corlissbs Date: 12/20/2013
Subject: Re: One-of-a kind Athearn Pacific pre-production prototype
Group: vintageHO Message: 21740 From: Mike Bauers Date: 12/20/2013
Subject: Re: Mystery car sides
Group: vintageHO Message: 21741 From: gssfhc_wvc Date: 12/20/2013
Subject: Re: Penn Line T-1 Tender
Group: vintageHO Message: 21742 From: erieberk Date: 12/21/2013
Subject: Re: Penn Line T-1 Tender
Group: vintageHO Message: 21743 From: Chuck Higdon Date: 12/21/2013
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Group: vintageHO Message: 21744 From: erieberk Date: 12/21/2013
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Group: vintageHO Message: 21745 From: Jacob Bechtel Date: 12/21/2013
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Group: vintageHO Message: 21746 From: erieberk Date: 12/21/2013
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Group: vintageHO Message: 21747 From: Jacob Bechtel Date: 12/21/2013
Subject: Re: Penn Line T-1 Tender
Group: vintageHO Message: 21748 From: Don Dellmann Date: 12/21/2013
Subject: Re: Penn Line T-1 Tender
Group: vintageHO Message: 21749 From: Mike Bauers Date: 12/21/2013
Subject: Re: Penn Line T-1 Tender
Group: vintageHO Message: 21750 From: Don Dellmann Date: 12/21/2013
Subject: Re: Penn Line T-1 Tender
Group: vintageHO Message: 21751 From: Denis Long Date: 12/22/2013
Subject: Identification of a PRR T-1
Group: vintageHO Message: 21752 From: gssfhc_wvc Date: 12/22/2013
Subject: Re: Penn Line T-1 Tender
Group: vintageHO Message: 21753 From: tonytrain48uk Date: 12/23/2013
Subject: Can anyone identify these trains?
Group: vintageHO Message: 21754 From: Donald R. Staton Date: 12/23/2013
Subject: Re: Can anyone identify these trains?
Group: vintageHO Message: 21755 From: Don Dellmann Date: 12/23/2013
Subject: Re: Can anyone identify these trains?
Group: vintageHO Message: 21756 From: Tony Stanford Date: 12/23/2013
Subject: Re: Can anyone identify these trains?
Group: vintageHO Message: 21757 From: Don Dellmann Date: 12/23/2013
Subject: Re: Can anyone identify these trains?
Group: vintageHO Message: 21758 From: Tony Stanford Date: 12/24/2013
Subject: Re: Can anyone identify these trains?
Group: vintageHO Message: 21759 From: Don Dellmann Date: 12/24/2013
Subject: Merry Christmas
Group: vintageHO Message: 21760 From: Don Dellmann Date: 12/24/2013
Subject: Re: Can anyone identify these trains?
Group: vintageHO Message: 21761 From: Denis Long Date: 12/24/2013
Subject: Re: Can anyone identify these trains?
Group: vintageHO Message: 21762 From: Denis Long Date: 12/24/2013
Subject: Re: Identification of a PRR T-1 [7 Attachments]
Group: vintageHO Message: 21763 From: Donald R. Staton Date: 12/24/2013
Subject: Re: Identification of a PRR T-1
Group: vintageHO Message: 21764 From: Jacob Bechtel Date: 12/24/2013
Subject: Re: Can anyone identify these trains?
Group: vintageHO Message: 21765 From: Jacob Bechtel Date: 12/24/2013
Subject: Re: Identification of a PRR T-1
Group: vintageHO Message: 21766 From: Denis Long Date: 12/24/2013
Subject: Re: Identification of a PRR T-1
Group: vintageHO Message: 21767 From: Richard White Date: 12/25/2013
Subject: Re: Merry Christmas [1 Attachment]
Group: vintageHO Message: 21768 From: Sean Naylor Date: 12/27/2013
Subject: Re: FSM #155 Coal Dock [1 Attachment]
Group: vintageHO Message: 21769 From: Tony Stanford Date: 12/27/2013
Subject: Re: Can anyone identify these trains?
Group: vintageHO Message: 21770 From: redvdub1 Date: 12/28/2013
Subject: Re: Penn Line T-1 Tender
Group: vintageHO Message: 21771 From: redvdub1 Date: 12/28/2013
Subject: Re: Lapping Drive Gears in Locomotives
Group: vintageHO Message: 21772 From: Dave Audley Date: 12/29/2013
Subject: Re: Lapping Drive Gears in Locomotives
Group: vintageHO Message: 21773 From: corlissbs Date: 12/29/2013
Subject: Re: Lapping Drive Gears in Locomotives



Group: vintageHO Message: 20726 From: Fred Hultberg Date: 1/1/2013
Subject: Re: Intro
A hearty welcome to you, Tyler!
 
Lots of  friendly people and good information here!
 
Ad Happy Ne Year to all!
 
Fred Hultberg(resident etching wizard, Fotocut®)
Group: vintageHO Message: 20727 From: erieberk@wmconnect.com Date: 1/1/2013
Subject: Re: Intro and Continued Seasons Greetings
Hello Tyler, Welcome aboard; we're lucky that you found us. Hope you find
all the early H0 model info you're looking for. Don't forget about
searching the archives and the files. There are trainloads of information ready to
be hauled out of them.

Wishes all a very Happy, Healthy and Prosperous New Year.

Ray Wetzel</HTML>
Group: vintageHO Message: 20728 From: Jim Heckard Date: 1/1/2013
Subject: Still here
Happy New Year to all. Keep those steamers fired.


Jim H
Group: vintageHO Message: 20729 From: Jim Heckard Date: 1/1/2013
Subject: rwrite some info
On 1/1/2013 2:58 PM, Jim Heckard wrote:
>
> I hope to get back to writing a little. I had been screwed up by
> having Doctors prescribed to much Percocet for pain and boy did it
> foul me up. I thought I was having a brain problem. I couldn't write
> my name, remember things or spell. Trying to get it straightened out.
> Coming around but still dealing with other problem. No to good at
> writing yet but going to try some small answers. Miss not written. Later
>
> Jim H
Group: vintageHO Message: 20730 From: Richard Carbo Date: 1/1/2013
Subject: Re: rwrite some info
Keep at it Jim. We can understand you. And, HAPPY NEW YEAR to all. Richard Carbo

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 1, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Jim Heckard <jimheck@...> wrote:

 

On 1/1/2013 2:58 PM, Jim Heckard wrote:
>
> I hope to get back to writing a little. I had been screwed up by
> having Doctors prescribed to much Percocet for pain and boy did it
> foul me up. I thought I was having a brain problem. I couldn't write
> my name, remember things or spell. Trying to get it straightened out.
> Coming around but still dealing with other problem. No to good at
> writing yet but going to try some small answers. Miss not written. Later
>
> Jim H

Group: vintageHO Message: 20731 From: Dennis Thompson Date: 1/1/2013
Subject: Re: Still here
Hi Jim:

Good to see you post. In the year or two I've been on this List, you
quickly appeared to me as one of the real, "anchor-men," of the
group. Great info and input from you....every time you posted. It
is an endearing and meaningful phenomena with this Group that the
genuine words and commentaries in the Posts from real folks carry as
much value as the Zamac and metal antiques we restore. Good human
stuff here; thanks for still being around.

Not to ignore others, as there are many here I greatly respect.

Meanwhile, we open the New Year here on our old 1920's farm with a
thin coat of snow on the surrounding wheat fields and not a car
passing by in two days. We can see the lights from two neighboring
farms about 1.5 miles away, so we know they are still there. Saw a
decent looking Varney Casey Jones sell recently and enjoy mine after
loosing my original back in the 1960's. Plus, because of this List,
I made the successful effort in acquiring a Mantua 8-Ball Mogul and a
Belle of the Eighties early in my membership here. Will probably
never be able to afford a Varney, "Super," series steam locomotive of
any version, but that's OK.

Just pulled out my E&H Model Hobbies 1956 catalog. Gee..........they
mailed me that when it was issued; I've had it ever since ! Have
my interests in railroads existed since that long ago? Am I that old? Ouch.

Oh well; glad to be here. I'm headed back to the coffee pot.

Happy New Year,
Dennis Thompson
Odessa/Ritzville, E WA state




At 10:18 AM 1/1/2013, you wrote:


> Happy New Year to all. Keep those steamers fired.
>
>
> Jim H
Group: vintageHO Message: 20732 From: John Hagen Date: 1/1/2013
Subject: Re: [yardbirdtrains] write some info

Jim,

 

Happy to hear that you may be able to return to writing to the groups. Your input is always interesting and educational and I for one have missed it.

 

A happy and healthy New Year to you.

 

John Hagen

 

From: yardbirdtrains@yahoogroups.com [mailto:yardbirdtrains@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Heckard
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 1:59 PM
To: yardbirdtrains@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [yardbirdtrains] write some info

 

 


I hope to get back to writing a little. I had been screwed up by having
Doctors prescribed to much Percocet for pain and boy did it foul me up.
I thought I was having a brain problem. I couldn't write my name,
remember things or spell. Trying to get it straightened out. Coming
around . No to good at writing yet but going to try some small answers.
Miss not written. Later

Jim H

Group: vintageHO Message: 20733 From: cwrailman Date: 1/1/2013
Subject: Re: Box Car Build Using Printed Car Sides now completed

As the final project of 2012 to come out of the California Western Loco and Car Rebuild shops, the Gorre and Daphetid box car is now completed.  I know a few of you checked out the progress earlier and the project is now completed.  You can check out the final product at my CWRailman.com web site.  I hope this motivates a few of you to do your own build.  If so please share you progress with us.

Denny

Janitor in Training

CW Loco and Car Rebuild Shops

WEB site: CWRailman.com 

Facebook: CWRailman 
--- In vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, "cwrailman" wrote:
>
>
> I know some of you guys build using paper or card stock car sides and
> some of the very early kits had paper/card car sides so you might be
> interested in this latest build to come out of my California Western
> Locomotive and Car Rebuild shops of a G&D
> box car. Some of the techniques are applicable to building other
> vintage kits as well.
>
> Denny
>
> Janitor in Training
>
> CW Loco and Car Rebuild Shops
>
> WEB site: CWRailman.com
>
> Facebook: CWRailman
>
>
Group: vintageHO Message: 20734 From: Glenn Date: 1/1/2013
Subject: odd car
Cleaning out the odds and ends of my collection (accumulation? I) have a few things that don’t go with the rest:
Die cast Zamak heavyweight coach—I think we might have determined it is Knapp—no trucks, smooth casting but no rivet detail.
Athearn metal 3-dome tank car body—no frame.
die cast 40’flat car
 
somebody send me $6 toward shipping they’re yours.
Glenn Joesten
3825 Pruett Drive
Yreka, CA 96097
Group: vintageHO Message: 20735 From: Mike Bauers Date: 1/1/2013
Subject: Some Paul Moore
I just played a hunch and got a 1949 P Moore catalog through eBay.

I now have better drawings of his short run ACF like streamlined traction and diesel powered creations.

I know they are free lanced. But I'm just not very concerned about that detail.

The catalog has an additional preprinted postcard that carries another Interurban ACF style of double ended trolley.

It also mentions the existence of a ten page 'Streamline Rail Car Plan Book.

Does anyone have this planbook and is willing to either sell it to me or a copy of its pages???

I'd sure like to laser cut the variations of these ACF style diesel rail cars and interurban cars.......

Mike Bauers
Sent from my iPhone
Group: vintageHO Message: 20736 From: Wally Date: 1/1/2013
Subject: A 4 wheel switch engine Amercian Flyer?
I have a 4 wheel diesel switcher with side rods that I want to sell. I am not sure of the manufacturer, maybe American Flyer? The previous owner had glued signs on the side of the cab and these have left spots which are visible in the pictures. It runs very well but just doesn't fit my collection. Pictures are in my folder and I would like $75 for this. If you are interested, please contact me off line.

Thanks!

Wally

dim01521@...
Group: vintageHO Message: 20737 From: Jim Heckard Date: 1/1/2013
Subject: Knapp passenger
Glenn,

Pictures of different views of 3 Knapp passenger cars which might
be one item you are talking about. I can gave more info if needed but
hopefully the pictures will do.

Jim H
  @@attachment@@
Group: vintageHO Message: 20738 From: John Hagen Date: 1/1/2013
Subject: Re: A 4 wheel switch engine Amercian Flyer?

American Flyer is a good guess as it clearly has “GILBERT” molded in the left walkway underside.

 

John Hagen

 

From: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vintageHO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Wally
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 7:24 PM
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vintageHO] A 4 wheel switch engine Amercian Flyer?

 

 

I have a 4 wheel diesel switcher with side rods that I want to sell. I am not sure of the manufacturer, maybe American Flyer? The previous owner had glued signs on the side of the cab and these have left spots which are visible in the pictures. It runs very well but just doesn't fit my collection. Pictures are in my folder and I would like $75 for this. If you are interested, please contact me off line.

Thanks!

Wally

dim01521@...

Group: vintageHO Message: 20739 From: Glenn Date: 1/1/2013
Subject: Re: Knapp passenger [3 Attachments]
the one on the left--interested?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Heckard
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 5:26 PM
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vintageHO] Knapp passenger [3 Attachments]



Glenn,

Pictures of different views of 3 Knapp passenger cars which might
be one item you are talking about. I can gave more info if needed but
hopefully the pictures will do.

Jim H


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Group: vintageHO Message: 20740 From: Jim Heckard Date: 1/2/2013
Subject: 4 wheel switch engine
Wally, Others

These are the two LIONEL HO 4 wheel switch engines with Jack
Shafts. These are original paint and printing except the black one has
the extra little eccentrics on the back axle. No I don't want to purchase.

Jim
  @@attachment@@
Group: vintageHO Message: 20741 From: Sean Naylor Date: 1/2/2013
Subject: Re: Intro
Hello Tyler!

Welcome aboard!

& Happy New Year everyone!

We all here know all to well about the crystallization (zimax rot) of the die cast metal engines!
 
Sean

"If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough!" - Mario Andretti!

From: gbwdude <gbwdude@...>
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 11:24 AM
Subject: [vintageHO] Intro

 
Hello,

I am lucky to find this group as I operate (and restore) many items not usually seen on model railroads today. Like many of the people on here I'm sure, my worst enemy is zamac poisoning. My semi-fictional model railroad, the Whiskey River Railway, has quite the unique roster of locomotives and rolling stock compared to some other modern rosters.

In the future I'll be posting pictures and probably a few questions. I hope everyone has a fun and safe New Years!

Tyler Dreisow
Manager of the Whiskey River Railway



Group: vintageHO Message: 20742 From: DOM ST.JOHN Date: 1/2/2013
Subject: Re: 4 wheel switch engine [2 Attachments]
Hi Jim, I'm sure you had a slip of the tongue? No doubt you meant the two Gilbert HO transfer switchers. A note of info regarding the 31013. It is also found with black counter balance weights on the rear drive shafts.
Dom


From: Jim Heckard <jimheck@...>
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 3:01 PM
Subject: [vintageHO] 4 wheel switch engine [2 Attachments]

 

Wally, Others

These are the two LIONEL HO 4 wheel switch engines with Jack
Shafts. These are original paint and printing except the black one has
the extra little eccentrics on the back axle. No I don't want to purchase.

Jim


Group: vintageHO Message: 20743 From: Glenn Date: 1/2/2013
Subject: part needed
Does anyone know of a replacement for the truck mounting bushings in the old die cast MDC freight cars?   it is a flanged “top hat” shaped plastic part. Main body is 0.177 diameter. (3.16”) center hole is a tap-size hole for a 2-56 screw.
 
Given the number of these cars still out there, I would think that someone has them??  I need 2 now—several more soon.Ghanks--
Glenn Joesten
Group: vintageHO Message: 20744 From: raul@wi.rr.com Date: 1/2/2013
Subject: Re: part needed
--
I have some .187" I could mail you. Roger Aultman



-- Glenn <glenn476@...> wrote:

=============
Does anyone know of a replacement for the truck mounting bushings in the old die cast MDC freight cars? it is a flanged “top hat” shaped plastic part. Main body is 0.177 diameter. (3.16”) center hole is a tap-size hole for a 2-56 screw.

Given the number of these cars still out there, I would think that someone has them?? I need 2 now—several more soon.Ghanks--
Glenn Joesten
Group: vintageHO Message: 20745 From: raul@wi.rr.com Date: 1/2/2013
Subject: Re: 4 wheel switch engine Parts
--
I have on e of these missing the jackshaft, was there a repro part made for these.
Roger Aultman



-- "DOM ST.JOHN" <jsangiovanni@...> wrote:

=============
Hi Jim, I'm sure you had a slip of the tongue? No doubt you meant the two Gilbert HO transfer switchers. A note of info regarding the 31013. It is also found with black counter balance weights on the rear drive shafts.
Dom



________________________________
From: Jim Heckard <jimheck@...>
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 3:01 PM
Subject: [vintageHO] 4 wheel switch engine [2 Attachments]


 
[Attachment(s) from Jim Heckard included below]

Wally, Others

These are the two LIONEL HO 4 wheel switch engines with Jack
Shafts. These are original paint and printing except the black one has
the extra little eccentrics on the back axle. No I don't want to purchase.

Jim
Group: vintageHO Message: 20746 From: John Webster Date: 1/2/2013
Subject: Re: Box Car Build Using Printed Car Sides now completed
Lovely build of the G&D printed car sides. I will refer to it when I build the set I picked up at a show many years ago.
 
Can't help but think it would just a little bit better with archbar trucks and KD-58 couplers.
 
I enjoy browsing your web pages. Some of it is "I remember doing that" and some of it is "I wish I had thought of that".
Group: vintageHO Message: 20747 From: cwrailman Date: 1/2/2013
Subject: Re: Box Car Build Using Printed Car Sides now completed

John,

You have a good vision of the car.  I had thought of using arch bar trucks however since this is an interchange car with my 1928 era road I decided to be somewhat progressive for the time and use Andrews trucks however that could be easily changed.  If you check out the cars on the Roundhouse page of my web site you'll see that I do use them on all my cars that are not interchanged such as my log hauling flat cars and tank car however my box cars which could be interchanged with other railroads have Andrews trucks similar to what this car rides on. 

I hope you will share images of your build with us when you get around to doing it.  I'm sure the guys on the G&D board would enjoy seeing it also.  What scale are you working in?  

Denny

Janitor in Training

CW Loco and Car Rebuild Shops

WEB site: CWRailman.com 

Facebook: CWRailman
--- In vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, "John Webster" wrote:
>
> Lovely build of the G&D printed car sides. I will refer to it when I build the set I picked up at a show many years ago.
>
> Can't help but think it would just a little bit better with archbar trucks and KD-58 couplers.
>
> I enjoy browsing your web pages. Some of it is "I remember doing that" and some of it is "I wish I had thought of that".
>
Group: vintageHO Message: 20748 From: Jim Heckard Date: 1/3/2013
Subject: Re: 4 wheel switch engine
Mind still not right. Should have said Gilbert not Lionel. This is why shouldn't write things yet. As for the counterbalance being found on both switch engines the Lionel books say only on the one but could be added easily and could be on both. Thanks for spotting the correction.

                                                         Jim H


On 1/2/2013 7:38 PM, DOM ST.JOHN wrote:
 
Hi Jim, I'm sure you had a slip of the tongue? No doubt you meant the two Gilbert HO transfer switchers. A note of info regarding the 31013. It is also found with black counter balance weights on the rear drive shafts.
Dom


From: Jim Heckard <jimheck@...>
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 3:01 PM
Subject: [vintageHO] 4 wheel switch engine [2 Attachments]

 

Wally, Others

These are the two LIONEL HO 4 wheel switch engines with Jack
Shafts. These are original paint and printing except the black one has
the extra little eccentrics on the back axle. No I don't want to purchase.

Jim



Group: vintageHO Message: 20749 From: John Hagen Date: 1/3/2013
Subject: Re: 4 wheel switch engine

Cripes Jim,

 

I make those kind of mistakes more than I care to admit and I am not on any such medications.

 

I check and re-check and then check again all of my emails before posting and I still use wrong words or leave out words (often the simple word “not” which can completely reverse the meaning of what I was saying) more often than I care to say, if I could remember how often.

 

Don’t let the desire for perfection in your writings stop you. If I did that I’d never write anything.

 

John Hagen

 

From: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vintageHO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Heckard
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:54 AM
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vintageHO] 4 wheel switch engine

 

 

Mind still not right. Should have said Gilbert not Lionel. This is why shouldn't write things yet. As for the counterbalance being found on both switch engines the Lionel books say only on the one but could be added easily and could be on both. Thanks for spotting the correction.

                                                         Jim H


On 1/2/2013 7:38 PM, DOM ST.JOHN wrote:

 

Hi Jim, I'm sure you had a slip of the tongue? No doubt you meant the two Gilbert HO transfer switchers. A note of info regarding the 31013. It is also found with black counter balance weights on the rear drive shafts.

Dom

 


From: Jim Heckard <jimheck@...>
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 3:01 PM
Subject: [vintageHO] 4 wheel switch engine [2 Attachments]

 

 


Wally, Others

These are the two LIONEL HO 4 wheel switch engines with Jack
Shafts. These are original paint and printing except the black one has
the extra little eccentrics on the back axle. No I don't want to purchase.

Jim

 

 

Group: vintageHO Message: 20750 From: Jim Heckard Date: 1/3/2013
Subject: Re: 4 wheel switch engine
Thanks John for your comment. Everyone makes mistakes but those mistakes start problems. Those mistakes can start vintage HO history that take a life of their own. Happy New Year
                                                                                              Jim H

                                                                                              

On 1/3/2013 1:08 PM, John Hagen wrote:
 

Cripes Jim,

 

I make those kind of mistakes more than I care to admit and I am not on any such medications.

 

I check and re-check and then check again all of my emails before posting and I still use wrong words or leave out words (often the simple word “not” which can completely reverse the meaning of what I was saying) more often than I care to say, if I could remember how often.

 

Don’t let the desire for perfection in your writings stop you. If I did that I’d never write anything.

 

John Hagen

 

From: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vintageHO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Heckard
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:54 AM
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vintageHO] 4 wheel switch engine

 

 

Mind still not right. Should have said Gilbert not Lionel. This is why shouldn't write things yet. As for the counterbalance being found on both switch engines the Lionel books say only on the one but could be added easily and could be on both. Thanks for spotting the correction.

                                                         Jim H


On 1/2/2013 7:38 PM, DOM ST.JOHN wrote:

 

Hi Jim, I'm sure you had a slip of the tongue? No doubt you meant the two Gilbert HO transfer switchers. A note of info regarding the 31013. It is also found with black counter balance weights on the rear drive shafts.

Dom

 


From: Jim Heckard <jimheck@...>
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 3:01 PM
Subject: [vintageHO] 4 wheel switch engine [2 Attachments]

 

 


Wally, Others

These are the two LIONEL HO 4 wheel switch engines with Jack
Shafts. These are original paint and printing except the black one has
the extra little eccentrics on the back axle. No I don't want to purchase.

Jim

 

 


Group: vintageHO Message: 20751 From: jay matz Date: 1/3/2013
Subject: Re: 4 wheel switch engine
Those who never make a mistake, never do anything.
One of the things I try to teach new people is you won't learn something if you don't try.
if you mess something up do it again. it will be better the next time. that is how the rest
of us learned.
Jay
                                             

 
 


Group: vintageHO Message: 20752 From: Jacob Bechtel Date: 1/3/2013
Subject: Re: 4 wheel switch engine
Jim

I have missed your contributions for the last few months. But I
understand, my doctors now have me taking 340 doses of codene and/or
morphine per month along with several other weirdo meds.

Don't worry about those easly detected "slips". We all knew what you meant.
Just keep sharing your knowledge and photos.
And, thank you again for preserving so much of our hobby's history.
I vaguely remembered the Flyer switcher but as I was on active duty
at sea during the short time it was available I never actually saw
one. Thank you for the photos.

Jake Bechtel
Gadsden, AL

On 1/3/13, Jim Heckard <jimheck@...> wrote:
> Thanks John for your comment. Everyone makes mistakes but those mistakes
> start problems. Those mistakes can start vintage HO history that take a
> life of their own. Happy New Year
> Jim H
>
>
>
> On 1/3/2013 1:08 PM, John Hagen wrote:
>>
>> Cripes Jim,
>>
>> I make those kind of mistakes more than I care to admit and I am not
>> on any such medications.
>>
>> I check and re-check and then check again all of my emails before
>> posting and I still use wrong words or leave out words (often the
>> simple word “not” which can completely reverse the meaning of what I
>> was saying) more often than I care to say, if I could remember how often.
>>
>> Don’t let the desire for perfection in your writings stop you. If I
>> did that I’d never write anything.
>>
>> John Hagen
>>
>> *From:*vintageHO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vintageHO@yahoogroups.com]
>> *On Behalf Of *Jim Heckard
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:54 AM
>> *To:* vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [vintageHO] 4 wheel switch engine
>>
>> Mind still not right. Should have said Gilbert not Lionel. This is why
>> shouldn't write things yet. As for the counterbalance being found on
>> both switch engines the Lionel books say only on the one but could be
>> added easily and could be on both. Thanks for spotting the correction.
>>
>> Jim H
>>
>>
>> On 1/2/2013 7:38 PM, DOM ST.JOHN wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jim, I'm sure you had a slip of the tongue? No doubt you meant
>> the two Gilbert HO transfer switchers. A note of info regarding
>> the 31013. It is also found with black counter balance weights on
>> the rear drive shafts.
>>
>> Dom
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:*Jim Heckard <jimheck@...> <mailto:jimheck@...>
>> *To:* vintageHO@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vintageHO@yahoogroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 2, 2013 3:01 PM
>> *Subject:* [vintageHO] 4 wheel switch engine [2 Attachments]
>>
>>
>> Wally, Others
>>
>> These are the two LIONEL HO 4 wheel switch engines with Jack
>> Shafts. These are original paint and printing except the black one
>> has
>> the extra little eccentrics on the back axle. No I don't want to
>> purchase.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>
>
Group: vintageHO Message: 20753 From: Rick Jones Date: 1/3/2013
Subject: The Zephyr
http://www.uh.edu/engines/epi2054.htm

I thought some group members might be interested in this episode of
Engines Of Our Ingenuity about the Zephyrs. EOOI is a 4 minute
syndicated feature heard on radio stations around the country. The link
above goes to a transcript of the episode. There's a link there to hear
the audio version.

--

Rick Jones

A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent
you from rolling over and going back to sleep when you hit the
snooze button.
Group: vintageHO Message: 20754 From: DOM ST.JOHN Date: 1/3/2013
Subject: Re: 4 wheel switch engine
Hi Jim, it's really just the black shell 31013 that comes with both white and black counter weights. The blue shell doesn't come with any. Just a little help from your friends.
Dom



From: Jim Heckard <jimheck@...>
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [vintageHO] 4 wheel switch engine

 
Mind still not right. Should have said Gilbert not Lionel. This is why shouldn't write things yet. As for the counterbalance being found on both switch engines the Lionel books say only on the one but could be added easily and could be on both. Thanks for spotting the correction.

                                                         Jim H


On 1/2/2013 7:38 PM, DOM ST.JOHN wrote:
 
Hi Jim, I'm sure you had a slip of the tongue? No doubt you meant the two Gilbert HO transfer switchers. A note of info regarding the 31013. It is also found with black counter balance weights on the rear drive shafts.
Dom


From: Jim Heckard <jimheck@...>
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 3:01 PM
Subject: [vintageHO] 4 wheel switch engine [2 Attachments]

 

Wally, Others

These are the two LIONEL HO 4 wheel switch engines with Jack
Shafts. These are original paint and printing except the black one has
the extra little eccentrics on the back axle. No I don't want to purchase.

Jim





Group: vintageHO Message: 20755 From: tom leen Date: 1/3/2013
Subject: Re: The Zephyr
Hi Rick,
Love the mousetrap idea.  I laughed so hard I almost fell off my chair.  My teenage son was wondering if he should call "911".  Thanks for the great laugh.
Tom

--- On Thu, 1/3/13, Rick Jones <r.t.jones@...> wrote:

From: Rick Jones <r.t.jones@...>
Subject: [vintageHO] The Zephyr
To: HOtrains@yahoogroups.com, vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, 1914to1940RRing@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 3, 2013, 11:38 PM

 
http://www.uh.edu/engines/epi2054.htm

I thought some group members might be interested in this episode of
Engines Of Our Ingenuity about the Zephyrs. EOOI is a 4 minute
syndicated feature heard on radio stations around the country. The link
above goes to a transcript of the episode. There's a link there to hear
the audio version.

--

Rick Jones

A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent
you from rolling over and going back to sleep when you hit the
snooze button.
Group: vintageHO Message: 20756 From: Glenn Date: 1/4/2013
Subject: part
I inquired a couple of days ago about this, but didn’t get a reply, do will try again.  I am looking for some of the plastic bushings like Model Die Casting used to use (back when they actually were die casting their models) to insulate the trucks from the frame/floor.
 
The body of the bushing was 3/16”, with a flange about 1/4” diameter and 1/32” thick.  Overall length was also about 3/16” since open cars had blind holes where the bushing pressed into the frame.  The hole through the bushing is a tap size for a 2-56 screw. 
 
Does anybody recognize this possibly as something in current use somewhere?
 
Thanks for the help.  I have several cars to assemble--
 
Glenn Joesten
Group: vintageHO Message: 20757 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 1/4/2013
Subject: Re: part
Glenn,

I, too, have been keeping an eye out for anything usable. So far haven't found anything. My thinking is perhaps take some plastic tubing, 3/16" diameter, and glue it into that hole. Problem is, the tubing I have on hand has a center hole too big for a #2 screw. Maybe take solid plastic rod, drill it out for a #2 screw, then use a thin washer for the hub.

Thanks
-Steve Neubaum

--- On Fri, 1/4/13, Glenn <glenn476@...> wrote:

From: Glenn <glenn476@...>
Subject: [vintageHO] part
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, January 4, 2013, 6:13 PM

 

I inquired a couple of days ago about this, but didn’t get a reply, do will try again.  I am looking for some of the plastic bushings like Model Die Casting used to use (back when they actually were die casting their models) to insulate the trucks from the frame/floor.
 
The body of the bushing was 3/16”, with a flange about 1/4” diameter and 1/32” thick.  Overall length was also about 3/16” since open cars had blind holes where the bushing pressed into the frame.  The hole through the bushing is a tap size for a 2-56 screw. 
 
Does anybody recognize this possibly as something in current use somewhere?
 
Thanks for the help.  I have several cars to assemble--
 
Glenn Joesten
Group: vintageHO Message: 20758 From: Glenn Date: 1/4/2013
Subject: Re: part
Steve—exactly what I was thinking.  If I could find some plastic rod that machines easily I would make what I need—Actually—I just checked the kits I have—all 3 have the bushings—so  there is just an odd hopper that needs them—I have 3 of these hoppers—50-55 ton cars,  2 off-set side, one rib side—have die cast bodies with sheet metal slope sheets—Ulrich??
Thanx--gj
 
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [vintageHO] part
 


Glenn,

I, too, have been keeping an eye out for anything usable. So far haven't found anything. My thinking is perhaps take some plastic tubing, 3/16" diameter, and glue it into that hole. Problem is, the tubing I have on hand has a center hole too big for a #2 screw. Maybe take solid plastic rod, drill it out for a #2 screw, then use a thin washer for the hub.

Thanks
-Steve Neubaum

--- On Fri, 1/4/13, Glenn <glenn476@...> wrote:

From: Glenn <glenn476@...>
Subject: [vintageHO] part
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, January 4, 2013, 6:13 PM

 
I inquired a couple of days ago about this, but didn’t get a reply, do will try again.  I am looking for some of the plastic bushings like Model Die Casting used to use (back when they actually were die casting their models) to insulate the trucks from the frame/floor.
 
The body of the bushing was 3/16”, with a flange about 1/4” diameter and 1/32” thick.  Overall length was also about 3/16” since open cars had blind holes where the bushing pressed into the frame.  The hole through the bushing is a tap size for a 2-56 screw. 
 
Does anybody recognize this possibly as something in current use somewhere?
 
Thanks for the help.  I have several cars to assemble--
 
Glenn Joesten
Group: vintageHO Message: 20759 From: Victor Bitleris Date: 1/4/2013
Subject: Re: part
Yep, I think most folks know what you are referring to.  I also wish I knew where to find some.  I can use a few.  In the meantime, I took plastic sprue and tubing of appropriate sizes, glued em up and stuck in a drill to sand and file down to the correct size.  Then drilled a hole for the screw.  That is probably the quickest solution until someone comes up a source.
Regards,
Vic Bitleris Raleigh, NC


To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
From: glenn476@...
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 16:13:52 -0800
Subject: [vintageHO] part

 

I inquired a couple of days ago about this, but didn’t get a reply, do will try again.  I am looking for some of the plastic bushings like Model Die Casting used to use (back when they actually were die casting their models) to insulate the trucks from the frame/floor.
 
The body of the bushing was 3/16”, with a flange about 1/4” diameter and 1/32” thick.  Overall length was also about 3/16” since open cars had blind holes where the bushing pressed into the frame.  The hole through the bushing is a tap size for a 2-56 screw. 
 
Does anybody recognize this possibly as something in current use somewhere?
 
Thanks for the help.  I have several cars to assemble--
 
Glenn Joesten

Group: vintageHO Message: 20760 From: Alan Kilby Date: 1/4/2013
Subject: Re: part
 Have you checked with NWSL they list insulating flange bushings on their website,have you tried telescoping tubing to get smaller I.D..
 aLAN
Group: vintageHO Message: 20761 From: Glenn Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: part
not enough room to reduce the diam.  gj
 
From: Alan Kilby
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [vintageHO] part
 


Have you checked with NWSL they list insulating flange bushings on their website,have you tried telescoping tubing to get smaller I.D..
aLAN
Group: vintageHO Message: 20763 From: Richard Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: part
Glenn,
When ever I have a need for something like this, I first head to our Ace Hardware store and go to the aile where they keep the nuts, bolts and washers. On one side of that aile they have many little pull-out boxes of all kinds of hard to find parts, including metal and plastic washers of different sizes. If you have one of these stores in your town, you might find something there that will do the job.
Richard in Vermont

--- In vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, "Glenn" wrote:
>
> I inquired a couple of days ago about this, but didn’t get a reply, do will try again. I am looking for some of the plastic bushings like Model Die Casting used to use (back when they actually were die casting their models) to insulate the trucks from the frame/floor.
>
> The body of the bushing was 3/16”, with a flange about 1/4” diameter and 1/32” thick. Overall length was also about 3/16” since open cars had blind holes where the bushing pressed into the frame. The hole through the bushing is a tap size for a 2-56 screw.
>
> Does anybody recognize this possibly as something in current use somewhere?
>
> Thanks for the help. I have several cars to assemble--
>
> Glenn Joesten
> glenn476@...
>
Group: vintageHO Message: 20764 From: Rick Jones Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: part
On 1/5/2013 2:24 AM, Glenn wrote:
>
>
> not enough room to reduce the diam. gj

You might have to go with a two piece solution - a rod or tube
inserted in the hole with a larger diameter plastic or fiber washer on
top as the flange.

--

Rick Jones

The quickest way to double your money is to fold it in half and
put it back in your pocket.
Group: vintageHO Message: 20765 From: Richard Carbo Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: Mistakes on naming Gilbert or Lionel

Congrats on your retirement. Enjoy. And, go play with your trains. Richard Carbo

 

From: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vintageHO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dana and Allen Hansen
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 9:15 AM
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vintageHO] Mistakes on naming Gilbert or Lionel

 

 

 

The only Person that doesn’t made a mistake, is the one that does not do anything. 

 

I must be the most productive individual ever...

 

I retired yesterday, they will  be sorry.  Ha.

 

Maybe I can stop armchair modeling and get my stuff out and unwrap it from the 1993 newspapers.

 

Sorry this off topic of actual vintage models. Couldn’t resist.

 

Allen Hansen

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Group: vintageHO Message: 20766 From: Bill Pittman Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: odd car
HI Glenn,
 
Are the odd cars still avalible?
 
Thank You
 
Bill
 

From: Glenn <glenn476@...>
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2013 6:59 PM
Subject: [vintageHO] odd car



Cleaning out the odds and ends of my collection (accumulation? I) have a few things that don’t go with the rest:
Die cast Zamak heavyweight coach—I think we might have determined it is Knapp—no trucks, smooth casting but no rivet detail.
Athearn metal 3-dome tank car body—no frame.
die cast 40’flat car
 
somebody send me $6 toward shipping they’re yours.
Glenn Joesten
3825 Pruett Drive
Yreka, CA 96097




Group: vintageHO Message: 20767 From: 23weldon Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: part
"The body of the bushing was 3/16”, with a flange about 1/4” diameter and 1/32” thick. Overall length was also about 3/16” since open cars had blind holes where the bushing pressed into the frame. The hole through the bushing is a tap size for a 2-56 screw."

1. Go to a well equipped hardware store and look for nylon screws in size 10-32 or 10-24. These sizes are usually just a paper thickness smaller than 3/16.  A bit of tape,  thin polyethylene plastic sheet  or glue will make it a tight fit in the 3/16 hole.  File the head flat and drill the needed screw hole either before or after installation.
 
2. Another approach is to find one of those special screws that are used to hold things in sheetrock walls.  The plastic inserts that they use to hold them in the drywall and provide a strong thread can be cut down to fit.  You'll need the smallest size you can find and may still need to shave it a bit with an Xacto knife to make it fit.
 
3. Still another is to heat a plastic sprue or the end or cap of some small bottle or tube that is the right size.and make a flat on the end.  Then shave and  drill.  Almost all of the plastic parts of such everyday products can be heated to a near melting point and formed to size.  The trick is to set yourself up to work fast with the right tools since small objects cool quickly in the air.
 
4.  Fill the hole with a drop of 5 minute epoxy using a toothpick or unbent paper clip to get the air bubble out; then file and drill.
 
5.  Make the bushing out of a small wood dowel.  Chuck it in an electric drill,  form it with a file and cut it off flat at the head with a fine saw blade held against the rotating workpiece. 
 
Ed Weldon
Group: vintageHO Message: 20768 From: john.allyn@comcast.net Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: part
These bushings had the unfortunate habit of splitting or disintegrating.  And as far as I can discern, replacements are unavailable.  The reason that MDC used them was electrical: metal trucks combined with cast on metal coupler pockets and metal couplers makes for a short circuit.  I've gotten around the problem in this way:

Drill out the bottom of the bolster cavity with the tap drill for a 2-56 screw (#56?), tap the hole, put a washer of the appropriate width (wide enough to bridge the bolster cavity) and thickness (thick or thin enough to get the right coupler height) on top of the bolster cavity, and screw on the truck.  If you have to use metal trucks with metal wheels, use a plastic 2-56 screw.  Or replace the metal wheels with plastic wheels and use a metal 2-56 screw, a particularly good solution if the old wheels have the old S-4 flanges.  Or replace the metal trucks with plastic trucks.

John B. Allyn




From: "Alan Kilby" <albyrno@...>
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 8:48:20 PM
Subject: Re: [vintageHO] part

 

 Have you checked with NWSL they list insulating flange bushings on their website,have you tried telescoping tubing to get smaller I.D..
 aLAN

Group: vintageHO Message: 20769 From: Chuck Higdon Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: Mistakes on naming Gilbert or Lionel

Congratulations do not jump up and down too much.  Get those models unwrapped and get to work on them.

 

Enjoy.

 

Chuck Higdon - check out my FEC layout at http://s1292.photobucket.com/albums/b574/lordon104/

 


From: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com [mailto: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Dana and Allen Hansen
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 9:15 AM
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vintageHO] Mistakes on naming Gilbert or Lionel

 

 

 

The only Person that doesn’t made a mistake, is the one that does not do anything. 

 

I must be the most productive individual ever...

 

I retired yesterday, they will  be sorry.  Ha.

 

Maybe I can stop armchair modeling and get my stuff out and unwrap it from the 1993 newspapers.

 

Sorry this off topic of actual vintage models. Couldn’t resist.

 

Allen Hansen

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Group: vintageHO Message: 20770 From: Mike Bauers Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: part
How about getting the plastic tubing [ hobby shop stuff from Evergreen or Plastruct ] that fits that hole, gluing it in place and screwing into that?

Or go for the clear soft plastic tubing that hardware stores carry as drain tubing and hobby shops carry as R/C fuel line? There will be enough wall of the tubing for the screw to mount into.

Since Small Parts Inc became part of Amazon.com, you can find that flanged plastic bushing through them with no problem.

Best to ya...
Mike Bauers
Milwaukee, Wi, USA



On Jan 5, 2013, at 10:39 AM, 23weldon <23.weldon@...> wrote:



"The body of the bushing was 3/16”, with a flange about 1/4” diameter and 1/32” thick. Overall length was also about 3/16” since open cars had blind holes where the bushing pressed into the frame. The hole through the bushing is a tap size for a 2-56 screw."

1. Go to a well equipped hardware store and look for nylon screws in size 10-32 or 10-24. These sizes are usually just a paper thickness smaller than 3/16.  A bit of tape,  thin polyethylene plastic sheet  or glue will make it a tight fit in the 3/16 hole.  File the head flat and drill the needed screw hole either before or after installation.
 
2. Another approach is to find one of those special screws that are used to hold things in sheetrock walls.  The plastic inserts that they use to hold them in the drywall and provide a strong thread can be cut down to fit.  You'll need the smallest size you can find and may still need to shave it a bit with an Xacto knife to make it fit.
 
3. Still another is to heat a plastic sprue or the end or cap of some small bottle or tube that is the right size.and make a flat on the end.  Then shave and  drill.  Almost all of the plastic parts of such everyday products can be heated to a near melting point and formed to size.  The trick is to set yourself up to work fast with the right tools since small objects cool quickly in the air.
 
4.  Fill the hole with a drop of 5 minute epoxy using a toothpick or unbent paper clip to get the air bubble out; then file and drill.
 
5.  Make the bushing out of a small wood dowel.  Chuck it in an electric drill,  form it with a file and cut it off flat at the head with a fine saw blade held against the rotating workpiece. 
 
Ed Weldon
Group: vintageHO Message: 20771 From: nvrr49@yahoo.com Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: part
Attachments :
Glen, Is the attached what you are looking for.  If the dimensions are correct, I will try printing some in ABS, and see what happens.  A good test for the new printer.
 
Kent Hurley
Kansas City, MO
 
--- In vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, "Glenn"  wrote:
>
> I inquired a couple of days ago about this, but didn’t get a reply, do will try again.  I am looking for some of the plastic bushings like Model Die Casting used to use (back when they actually were die casting their models) to insulate the trucks from the frame/floor.
>
> The body of the bushing was 3/16â€, with a flange about 1/4†diameter and 1/32†thick.  Overall length was also about 3/16†since open cars had blind holes where the bushing pressed into the frame.  The hole through the bushing is a tap size for a 2-56 screw. 
>
> Does anybody recognize this possibly as something in current use somewhere?
>
> Thanks for the help.  I have several cars to assemble--
>
> Glenn Joesten
> glenn476@...
  @@attachment@@
Group: vintageHO Message: 20772 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: part
The problem with a 3/16" hole is finding truck mounts that will fit that. Most trucks are designed to accept a #2 screw. Athearn trucks, the plastic ones, use a wider hole that could be widened all the way, the the head of a larger screw fitting below the truck bolster, rather than inside.

I've been looking into that myself recently.

-Steve Neubaum

--- On Sat, 1/5/13, 23weldon <23.weldon@...> wrote:

From: 23weldon <23.weldon@...>
Subject: [vintageHO] Re: part
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 5, 2013, 10:39 AM

 

"The body of the bushing was 3/16”, with a flange about 1/4” diameter and 1/32” thick. Overall length was also about 3/16” since open cars had blind holes where the bushing pressed into the frame. The hole through the bushing is a tap size for a 2-56 screw."

1. Go to a well equipped hardware store and look for nylon screws in size 10-32 or 10-24. These sizes are usually just a paper thickness smaller than 3/16.  A bit of tape,  thin polyethylene plastic sheet  or glue will make it a tight fit in the 3/16 hole.  File the head flat and drill the needed screw hole either before or after installation.
 
2. Another approach is to find one of those special screws that are used to hold things in sheetrock walls.  The plastic inserts that they use to hold them in the drywall and provide a strong thread can be cut down to fit.  You'll need the smallest size you can find and may still need to shave it a bit with an Xacto knife to make it fit.
 
3. Still another is to heat a plastic sprue or the end or cap of some small bottle or tube that is the right size.and make a flat on the end.  Then shave and  drill.  Almost all of the plastic parts of such everyday products can be heated to a near melting point and formed to size.  The trick is to set yourself up to work fast with the right tools since small objects cool quickly in the air.
 
4.  Fill the hole with a drop of 5 minute epoxy using a toothpick or unbent paper clip to get the air bubble out; then file and drill.
 
5.  Make the bushing out of a small wood dowel.  Chuck it in an electric drill,  form it with a file and cut it off flat at the head with a fine saw blade held against the rotating workpiece. 
 
Ed Weldon
Group: vintageHO Message: 20773 From: Sean Naylor Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Mystery GG1
Attachments :
Hi Guys!

I have a New Year's mystery locomotive here...

It is a die cast metal GG1. It does not appear to be the typical GHC Japan import and it definitely is not the Penn Line version.

Please look at the listing photos closely! Note the brass chassis power truck & 1 dummy truck and the die cast pantograph frames. The pantographs even seem to be not typical.

Any input is greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
 
Sean

"If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough!" - Mario Andretti!
  @@attachment@@
Group: vintageHO Message: 20774 From: Glenn Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: part
I don't usually think of Ace for stuff this small--will try tomorrow as I
was already there today gj

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 7:07 AM
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vintageHO] Re: part

Glenn,
When ever I have a need for something like this, I first head to our Ace
Hardware store and go to the aile where they keep the nuts, bolts and
washers. On one side of that aile they have many little pull-out boxes of
all kinds of hard to find parts, including metal and plastic washers of
different sizes. If you have one of these stores in your town, you might
find something there that will do the job.
Richard in Vermont

--- In vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, "Glenn" wrote:
>
> I inquired a couple of days ago about this, but didn’t get a reply, do
> will try again. I am looking for some of the plastic bushings like Model
> Die Casting used to use (back when they actually were die casting their
> models) to insulate the trucks from the frame/floor.
>
> The body of the bushing was 3/16”, with a flange about 1/4” diameter
> and 1/32” thick. Overall length was also about 3/16” since open cars
> had blind holes where the bushing pressed into the frame. The hole
> through the bushing is a tap size for a 2-56 screw.
>
> Does anybody recognize this possibly as something in current use
> somewhere?
>
> Thanks for the help. I have several cars to assemble--
>
> Glenn Joesten
> glenn476@...
>




------------------------------------

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Group: vintageHO Message: 20775 From: Glenn Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: part
Since I only need 2 I M filling the holes with epoxy then drill and tap.  Thanks for all the help.
 
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: [vintageHO] part
 


How about getting the plastic tubing [ hobby shop stuff from Evergreen or Plastruct ] that fits that hole, gluing it in place and screwing into that?
 
Or go for the clear soft plastic tubing that hardware stores carry as drain tubing and hobby shops carry as R/C fuel line? There will be enough wall of the tubing for the screw to mount into.
 
Since Small Parts Inc became part of Amazon.com, you can find that flanged plastic bushing through them with no problem.
 
Best to ya...
Mike Bauers
Milwaukee, Wi, USA
 
 
 
On Jan 5, 2013, at 10:39 AM, 23weldon <23.weldon@...> wrote:



"The body of the bushing was 3/16”, with a flange about 1/4” diameter and 1/32” thick. Overall length was also about 3/16” since open cars had blind holes where the bushing pressed into the frame. The hole through the bushing is a tap size for a 2-56 screw."

1. Go to a well equipped hardware store and look for nylon screws in size 10-32 or 10-24. These sizes are usually just a paper thickness smaller than 3/16.  A bit of tape,  thin polyethylene plastic sheet  or glue will make it a tight fit in the 3/16 hole.  File the head flat and drill the needed screw hole either before or after installation.
 
2. Another approach is to find one of those special screws that are used to hold things in sheetrock walls.  The plastic inserts that they use to hold them in the drywall and provide a strong thread can be cut down to fit.  You'll need the smallest size you can find and may still need to shave it a bit with an Xacto knife to make it fit.
 
3. Still another is to heat a plastic sprue or the end or cap of some small bottle or tube that is the right size.and make a flat on the end.  Then shave and  drill.  Almost all of the plastic parts of such everyday products can be heated to a near melting point and formed to size.  The trick is to set yourself up to work fast with the right tools since small objects cool quickly in the air.
 
4.  Fill the hole with a drop of 5 minute epoxy using a toothpick or unbent paper clip to get the air bubble out; then file and drill.
 
5.  Make the bushing out of a small wood dowel.  Chuck it in an electric drill,  form it with a file and cut it off flat at the head with a fine saw blade held against the rotating workpiece.
 
Ed Weldon
Group: vintageHO Message: 20776 From: Glenn Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: odd car
yes.  gj
 
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: [vintageHO] odd car
 


HI Glenn,
 
Are the odd cars still avalible?
 
Thank You
 
Bill
 
 
From: Glenn <glenn476@...>
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2013 6:59 PM
Subject: [vintageHO] odd car
 


Cleaning out the odds and ends of my collection (accumulation? I) have a few things that don’t go with the rest:
Die cast Zamak heavyweight coach—I think we might have determined it is Knapp—no trucks, smooth casting but no rivet detail.
Athearn metal 3-dome tank car body—no frame.
die cast 40’flat car
 
somebody send me $6 toward shipping they’re yours.
Glenn Joesten
3825 Pruett Drive
Yreka, CA 96097




Group: vintageHO Message: 20777 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: part
Glenn and all,

Over at Ace earlier. They have a nylon spacer with 3/16" outside diameter, I got a couple of the 1" length ones.Inside will accomodate a #6 machine screw.

What I am trying tonight, is cut the spacer to length, glue it into the hole in the car floor, then use a #8 washer (Metal for the hub. The center hole in a #8 screw is 3/16". Widen the hole in an Athearn truck for the #6 screw, secure the truck to the bushing. As the Athearn truck is plastic frame and wheels, insulation will certainly not be a problem!

Will post pics and results tonight or tomorrow.

-Steve Neubaum

--- On Sat, 1/5/13, Glenn <glenn476@...> wrote:

From: Glenn <glenn476@...>
Subject: Re: [vintageHO] Re: part
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 5, 2013, 4:55 PM

 

I don't usually think of Ace for stuff this small--will try tomorrow as I
was already there today gj

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 7:07 AM
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vintageHO] Re: part

Glenn,
When ever I have a need for something like this, I first head to our Ace
Hardware store and go to the aile where they keep the nuts, bolts and
washers. On one side of that aile they have many little pull-out boxes of
all kinds of hard to find parts, including metal and plastic washers of
different sizes. If you have one of these stores in your town, you might
find something there that will do the job.
Richard in Vermont

--- In vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, "Glenn" wrote:
>
> I inquired a couple of days ago about this, but didn’t get a reply, do
> will try again. I am looking for some of the plastic bushings like Model
> Die Casting used to use (back when they actually were die casting their
> models) to insulate the trucks from the frame/floor.
>
> The body of the bushing was 3/16â€, with a flange about 1/4†diameter
> and 1/32†thick. Overall length was also about 3/16†since open cars
> had blind holes where the bushing pressed into the frame. The hole
> through the bushing is a tap size for a 2-56 screw.
>
> Does anybody recognize this possibly as something in current use
> somewhere?
>
> Thanks for the help. I have several cars to assemble--
>
> Glenn Joesten
> glenn476@...
>

------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

Group: vintageHO Message: 20778 From: Glenn Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: part
good ideas, but the hole in the car frame is 3/16”—everything here is too big. 
 
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [vintageHO] Re: part
 


Glenn and all,

Over at Ace earlier. They have a nylon spacer with 3/16" outside diameter, I got a couple of the 1" length ones.Inside will accomodate a #6 machine screw.

What I am trying tonight, is cut the spacer to length, glue it into the hole in the car floor, then use a #8 washer (Metal for the hub. The center hole in a #8 screw is 3/16". Widen the hole in an Athearn truck for the #6 screw, secure the truck to the bushing. As the Athearn truck is plastic frame and wheels, insulation will certainly not be a problem!

Will post pics and results tonight or tomorrow.

-Steve Neubaum

--- On Sat, 1/5/13, Glenn <glenn476@...> wrote:

From: Glenn <glenn476@...>
Subject: Re: [vintageHO] Re: part
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 5, 2013, 4:55 PM

 

I don't usually think of Ace for stuff this small--will try tomorrow as I
was already there today gj

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 7:07 AM
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vintageHO] Re: part

Glenn,
When ever I have a need for something like this, I first head to our Ace
Hardware store and go to the aile where they keep the nuts, bolts and
washers. On one side of that aile they have many little pull-out boxes of
all kinds of hard to find parts, including metal and plastic washers of
different sizes. If you have one of these stores in your town, you might
find something there that will do the job.
Richard in Vermont

--- In vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, "Glenn" wrote:
>
> I inquired a couple of days ago about this, but didn’t get a reply, do
> will try again. I am looking for some of the plastic bushings like Model
> Die Casting used to use (back when they actually were die casting their
> models) to insulate the trucks from the frame/floor.
>
> The body of the bushing was 3/16â€, with a flange about 1/4†diameter
> and 1/32†thick. Overall length was also about 3/16†since open cars
> had blind holes where the bushing pressed into the frame. The hole
> through the bushing is a tap size for a 2-56 screw.
>
> Does anybody recognize this possibly as something in current use
> somewhere?
>
> Thanks for the help. I have several cars to assemble--
>
> Glenn Joesten
> glenn476@...
>

------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

Group: vintageHO Message: 20779 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: part
Glenn,

Correct. The Ace near my home is smaller than most, so I'm only assuming if the one here has it, they all do.

The tubing fits into that 3/16" hole, the inside hole in the tubing is just right for a #6 machine screw (Threads on a #6 sheet metal screw are too coarse, I tried them too). Athearn plastic trucks have a larger hole for the collar on their bolsters. Widen that hole slighty to bring it to large enough for a #6 screw.

Pictures will help. My shoulder is hurting bad, so I've got my pain meds going through me right now. Makes it a bit more "Interesting" trying to explain these things.

Thanks
-Steve Neubaum

--- On Sat, 1/5/13, Glenn <glenn476@...> wrote:

From: Glenn <glenn476@...>
Subject: Re: [vintageHO] Re: part
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 5, 2013, 5:53 PM

 

good ideas, but the hole in the car frame is 3/16”—everything here is too big. 
 
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [vintageHO] Re: part
 


Glenn and all,

Over at Ace earlier. They have a nylon spacer with 3/16" outside diameter, I got a couple of the 1" length ones.Inside will accomodate a #6 machine screw.

What I am trying tonight, is cut the spacer to length, glue it into the hole in the car floor, then use a #8 washer (Metal for the hub. The center hole in a #8 screw is 3/16". Widen the hole in an Athearn truck for the #6 screw, secure the truck to the bushing. As the Athearn truck is plastic frame and wheels, insulation will certainly not be a problem!

Will post pics and results tonight or tomorrow.

-Steve Neubaum

--- On Sat, 1/5/13, Glenn <glenn476@...> wrote:

From: Glenn <glenn476@...>
Subject: Re: [vintageHO] Re: part
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 5, 2013, 4:55 PM

 

I don't usually think of Ace for stuff this small--will try tomorrow as I
was already there today gj

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 7:07 AM
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vintageHO] Re: part

Glenn,
When ever I have a need for something like this, I first head to our Ace
Hardware store and go to the aile where they keep the nuts, bolts and
washers. On one side of that aile they have many little pull-out boxes of
all kinds of hard to find parts, including metal and plastic washers of
different sizes. If you have one of these stores in your town, you might
find something there that will do the job.
Richard in Vermont

--- In vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, "Glenn" wrote:
>
> I inquired a couple of days ago about this, but didn’t get a reply, do
> will try again. I am looking for some of the plastic bushings like Model
> Die Casting used to use (back when they actually were die casting their
> models) to insulate the trucks from the frame/floor.
>
> The body of the bushing was 3/16â€, with a flange about 1/4†diameter
> and 1/32†thick. Overall length was also about 3/16†since open cars
> had blind holes where the bushing pressed into the frame. The hole
> through the bushing is a tap size for a 2-56 screw.
>
> Does anybody recognize this possibly as something in current use
> somewhere?
>
> Thanks for the help. I have several cars to assemble--
>
> Glenn Joesten
> glenn476@...
>

------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

Group: vintageHO Message: 20780 From: jerrygart5 Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: Mistakes on naming Gilbert or Lionel
Ah, just wait until you start wondering how you used to get done all you did BEFORE you retired. . . .

Congrats!! JerryG

--- In vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, Dana and Allen Hansen wrote:
>
> Vintage HO Operators
>. . . . . . . . .
>
> I retired yesterday, they will be sorry. Ha.
>
>. . . . . . . . .>
> Allen Hansen
>
Group: vintageHO Message: 20781 From: hooligan Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Re: Mistakes on naming Gilbert or Lionel
Amen Jerry G. , Amen !! Henry H.

--- In vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, "jerrygart5" wrote:
>
> Ah, just wait until you start wondering how you used to get done all you did BEFORE you retired. . . .
>
> Congrats!! JerryG
>
> --- In vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, Dana and Allen Hansen wrote:
> >
> > Vintage HO Operators
> >. . . . . . . . .
> >
> > I retired yesterday, they will be sorry. Ha.
> >
> >. . . . . . . . .>
> > Allen Hansen
> >
>
Group: vintageHO Message: 20782 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 1/5/2013
Subject: Walthers Roofs
All,

I have a bunch of the older Walthers passenger car kits, the kind with tinplate sides, wood floors, metal ends, and plastic roofs. The roofs hold to the car via a machine screw mounted upwards through the floor and into the roof.

I don't want to use this system. I am interior detailing all these cars, including miniature bulbs in the roof. That machine screw in most cases cannot be hidden. But it becomes almost necessary, as removing all warpage in the roof is near impossible at times, and if I get the roof close to straight, and arched up in the center only very slightly, the screw not only holds it straight, but helps hold the car together too.

I am interested in using wood roofs perhaps. Northeastern makes a wood roof. If I use that, I can run screws in hidden places, such as the end washrooms in the corners, where they could be hidden inside an electrical locker or disguised as plumbing of some kind at minimum.

I don't worry about the contour of the clerestory. All plastic roofs would be replaced, the wood roofs I have from these cars are almost all the turtle roof style - air conditioned - so I don't expect the clerestory to match a turtle roof, and often different car builders would have slightly different roof contours in real life.

Will Northeastern roofs work with little fuss? I'm looking at the sheet metal lip at the top of the car sides and wondering if that will require any carving or fitting with Northeastern roofs.

The plastic roofs I plan to reuse on other projects. Have a few things in mind.

Thanks
-Steve Neubaum
Group: vintageHO Message: 20783 From: Don Dellmann Date: 1/6/2013
Subject: Re: Walthers Roofs
On 1/5/2013 11:54 PM, Stephen Neubaum wrote:
All,

I have a bunch of the older Walthers passenger car kits, the kind with tinplate sides, wood floors, metal ends, and plastic roofs. The roofs hold to the car via a machine screw mounted upwards through the floor and into the roof.

I don't want to use this system. I am interior detailing all these cars, including miniature bulbs in the roof. That machine screw in most cases cannot be hidden. But it becomes almost necessary, as removing all warpage in the roof is near impossible at times, and if I get the roof close to straight, and arched up in the center only very slightly, the screw not only holds it straight, but helps hold the car together too.

I am interested in using wood roofs perhaps. Northeastern makes a wood roof. If I use that, I can run screws in hidden places, such as the end washrooms in the corners, where they could be hidden inside an electrical locker or disguised as plumbing of some kind at minimum.

I don't worry about the contour of the clerestory. All plastic roofs would be replaced, the wood roofs I have from these cars are almost all the turtle roof style - air conditioned - so I don't expect the clerestory to match a turtle roof, and often different car builders would have slightly different roof contours in real life.

Will Northeastern roofs work with little fuss? I'm looking at the sheet metal lip at the top of the car sides and wondering if that will require any carving or fitting with Northeastern roofs.

The plastic roofs I plan to reuse on other projects. Have a few things in mind.

Thanks
-Steve Neubaum

Unfortunately you WILL have a problem with Northeastern roof, it's made to fit straight sides like the JC cars.  You will need to narrow the underside that slips down inside the car in order to fit.  You already will have to carve the ends to ends to get the proper end contour, and the beading won't be right unless you can find the end bead castings Walthers used to make, but those were a pain to use too.

I would be inclined to stick with the plastic roof and glue it down.  It's not the difficult to pry off if you need to replace a bulb.  Probably a lot less work, anf the appesrance will be better.

Don


-- Don Dellmann don.dellmann@...
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/don_dellmann/
Listowner: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vintageHO/
Group: vintageHO Message: 20784 From: Sean Naylor Date: 1/6/2013
Subject: Re: [yardbirdtrains] Mystery GG1
Thanks Guys!

I think FAMCO is it. That is the company that was in my mind, but I just could not get it to come out!

Awesome! Thanks again!
 
Sean

"If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough!" - Mario Andretti!

From: Jeff Pellas <jppellas@...>
To: yardbirdtrains@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [yardbirdtrains] Mystery GG1

 
No doubt it is a FAMOCO. I used to have one of these. 

Jeff
jppellas@...


-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Naylor <a69mustang4me@...>
To: yardbirdtrains <yardbirdtrains@yahoogroups.com>; vintage HO@yahoogroups.com <vintageho@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Jan 5, 2013 11:58 am
Subject: [yardbirdtrains] Mystery GG1 [2 Attachments]

 
[Attachment(s) from Sean Naylor included below]
Hi Guys!

I have a New Year's mystery locomotive here...

It is a die cast metal GG1. It does not appear to be the typical GHC Japan import and it definitely is not the Penn Line version.

Please look at the listing photos closely! Note the brass chassis power truck & 1 dummy truck and the die cast pantograph frames. The pantographs even seem to be not typical.

Any input is greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
 
Sean

"If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough!" - Mario Andretti!


Group: vintageHO Message: 20785 From: Richard White Date: 1/6/2013
Subject: Re: Walthers Roofs
I'd stick with the screw. It has worked fine for me (no interiors). I'd paint the screw flat black so you can't see it through the windows, then when you want to take off the roof to show off your interior the screw won't be there anyway. Regards- Richard White
 

To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
From: don.dellmann@...
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 03:55:41 -0600
Subject: Re: [vintageHO] Walthers Roofs

 
On 1/5/2013 11:54 PM, Stephen Neubaum wrote:
All,

I have a bunch of the older Walthers passenger car kits, the kind with tinplate sides, wood floors, metal ends, and plastic roofs. The roofs hold to the car via a machine screw mounted upwards through the floor and into the roof.

I don't want to use this system. I am interior detailing all these cars, including miniature bulbs in the roof. That machine screw in most cases cannot be hidden. But it becomes almost necessary, as removing all warpage in the roof is near impossible at times, and if I get the roof close to straight, and arched up in the center only very slightly, the screw not only holds it straight, but helps hold the car together too.

I am interested in using wood roofs perhaps. Northeastern makes a wood roof. If I use that, I can run screws in hidden places, such as the end washrooms in the corners, where they could be hidden inside an electrical locker or disguised as plumbing of some kind at minimum.

I don't worry about the contour of the clerestory. All plastic roofs would be replaced, the wood roofs I have from these cars are almost all the turtle roof style - air conditioned - so I don't expect the clerestory to match a turtle roof, and often different car builders would have slightly different roof contours in real life.

Will Northeastern roofs work with little fuss? I'm looking at the sheet metal lip at the top of the car sides and wondering if that will require any carving or fitting with Northeastern roofs.

The plastic roofs I plan to reuse on other projects. Have a few things in mind.

Thanks
-Steve Neubaum

Unfortunately you WILL have a problem with Northeastern roof, it's made to fit straight sides like the JC cars.  You will need to narrow the underside that slips down inside the car in order to fit.  You already will have to carve the ends to ends to get the proper end contour, and the beading won't be right unless you can find the end bead castings Walthers used to make, but those were a pain to use too.

I would be inclined to stick with the plastic roof and glue it down.  It's not the difficult to pry off if you need to replace a bulb.  Probably a lot less work, anf the appesrance will be better.

Don


-- Don Dellmann don.dellmann@...
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/don_dellmann/
Listowner: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vintageHO/


Group: vintageHO Message: 20786 From: john.allyn@comcast.net Date: 1/6/2013
Subject: Re: Walthers Roofs
The Northeastern roof also has a clerestory section which seems a bit tall for a "modern" heavyweight car. 

John B. Allyn




From: "Richard White" <toytrain13@...>
To: "Jim Heckard" <vintageho@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 10:40:32 AM
Subject: RE: [vintageHO] Walthers Roofs

 

I'd stick with the screw. It has worked fine for me (no interiors). I'd paint the screw flat black so you can't see it through the windows, then when you want to take off the roof to show off your interior the screw won't be there anyway. Regards- Richard White
 

To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
From: don.dellmann@...
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 03:55:41 -0600
Subject: Re: [vintageHO] Walthers Roofs

 
On 1/5/2013 11:54 PM, Stephen Neubaum wrote:
All,

I have a bunch of the older Walthers passenger car kits, the kind with tinplate sides, wood floors, metal ends, and plastic roofs. The roofs hold to the car via a machine screw mounted upwards through the floor and into the roof.

I don't want to use this system. I am interior detailing all these cars, including miniature bulbs in the roof. That machine screw in most cases cannot be hidden. But it becomes almost necessary, as removing all warpage in the roof is near impossible at times, and if I get the roof close to straight, and arched up in the center only very slightly, the screw not only holds it straight, but helps hold the car together too.

I am interested in using wood roofs perhaps. Northeastern makes a wood roof. If I use that, I can run screws in hidden places, such as the end washrooms in the corners, where they could be hidden inside an electrical locker or disguised as plumbing of some kind at minimum.

I don't worry about the contour of the clerestory. All plastic roofs would be replaced, the wood roofs I have from these cars are almost all the turtle roof style - air conditioned - so I don't expect the clerestory to match a turtle roof, and often different car builders would have slightly different roof contours in real life.

Will Northeastern roofs work with little fuss? I'm looking at the sheet metal lip at the top of the car sides and wondering if that will require any carving or fitting with Northeastern roofs.

The plastic roofs I plan to reuse on other projects. Have a few things in mind.

Thanks
-Steve Neubaum

Unfortunately you WILL have a problem with Northeastern roof, it's made to fit straight sides like the JC cars.  You will need to narrow the underside that slips down inside the car in order to fit.  You already will have to carve the ends to ends to get the proper end contour, and the beading won't be right unless you can find the end bead castings Walthers used to make, but those were a pain to use too.

I would be inclined to stick with the plastic roof and glue it down.  It's not the difficult to pry off if you need to replace a bulb.  Probably a lot less work, anf the appesrance will be better.

Don


-- Don Dellmann don.dellmann@...
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/don_dellmann/
Listowner: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vintageHO/


Group: vintageHO Message: 20787 From: Chuck Higdon Date: 1/6/2013
Subject: Re: Walthers Roofs

And if you use Diodes instead of bulbs you should not have that issue either.

 

Chuck Higdon - check out my FEC layout at http://s1292.photobucket.com/albums/b574/lordon104/

 


From: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com [mailto: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Don Dellmann
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 4:56 AM
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vintageHO] Walthers Roofs

 

 

On 1/5/2013 11:54 PM, Stephen Neubaum wrote:

All,

I have a bunch of the older Walthers passenger car kits, the kind with tinplate sides, wood floors, metal ends, and plastic roofs. The roofs hold to the car via a machine screw mounted upwards through the floor and into the roof.

I don't want to use this system. I am interior detailing all these cars, including miniature bulbs in the roof. That machine screw in most cases cannot be hidden. But it becomes almost necessary, as removing all warpage in the roof is near impossible at times, and if I get the roof close to straight, and arched up in the center only very slightly, the screw not only holds it straight, but helps hold the car together too.

I am interested in using wood roofs perhaps. Northeastern makes a wood roof. If I use that, I can run screws in hidden places, such as the end washrooms in the corners, where they could be hidden inside an electrical locker or disguised as plumbing of some kind at minimum.

I don't worry about the contour of the clerestory. All plastic roofs would be replaced, the wood roofs I have from these cars are almost all the turtle roof style - air conditioned - so I don't expect the clerestory to match a turtle roof, and often different car builders would have slightly different roof contours in real life.

Will Northeastern roofs work with little fuss? I'm looking at the sheet metal lip at the top of the car sides and wondering if that will require any carving or fitting with Northeastern roofs.

The plastic roofs I plan to reuse on other projects. Have a few things in mind.

Thanks
-Steve Neubaum


Unfortunately you WILL have a problem with Northeastern roof, it's made to fit straight sides like the JC cars.  You will need to narrow the underside that slips down inside the car in order to fit.  You already will have to carve the ends to ends to get the proper end contour, and the beading won't be right unless you can find the end bead castings Walthers used to make, but those were a pain to use too.

I would be inclined to stick with the plastic roof and glue it down.  It's not the difficult to pry off if you need to replace a bulb.  Probably a lot less work, anf the appesrance will be better.

Don


-- Don Dellmann don.dellmann@...
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/don_dellmann/
Listowner: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vintageHO/

Group: vintageHO Message: 20788 From: Mike Bauers Date: 1/6/2013
Subject: Re: Walthers Roofs
Someday, I want to show you how you can take a single manufactured roof and duplicate it in a few ways to make several as a result.

With variations on casting or vacuforming the ends and making use of the rest of the roof into construction ribs with a minor tweak, you can make dozens of hollow, detailed clerestory roofs if you need to.

At it's most basic, I can take 2/3's of the length of a manufactured roof and cast dozens of dupes to splice into whatever length I need for a particular car. With a simple mod to that section of commercial roof I can make it build up to any clerestory window or vent pattern I need.

I can cast one end and slice the rest of the roof into ribs to be skinned over allowing me to make a dupe of that end and several roofs from the single roof.

We do not have to have the originals if they are long out of production, and we need several of them. Heavily modded Athearn, AHM, or other extra roofs as master parts will work just as well.

Best to ya...
Mike Bauers
Milwaukee, Wi, USA



On Jan 6, 2013, at 1:26 PM, john.allyn@... wrote:

>
>
> The Northeastern roof also has a clerestory section which seems a bit tall for a "modern" heavyweight car.
>
> John B. Allyn
>
>
>
> From: "Richard White" <toytrain13@...>
> To: "Jim Heckard" <vintageho@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 10:40:32 AM
> Subject: RE: [vintageHO] Walthers Roofs
>
>
> I'd stick with the screw. It has worked fine for me (no interiors). I'd paint the screw flat black so you can't see it through the windows, then when you want to take off the roof to show off your interior the screw won't be there anyway. Regards- Richard White
Group: vintageHO Message: 20789 From: ckinzer@att.net Date: 1/6/2013
Subject: Unusual plated diesel sold on ebay
Does anybody know anything about this A-B set of plated diesels just sold on ebay claimed to be Tenshodo?
 
 
The lights on the front are something I've never seen.  Also, the nose shape doesn't look like the usual Tenshodo diesels to me.
 
Chuck Kinzer
Group: vintageHO Message: 20790 From: MRLENGAL2U@aol.com Date: 1/7/2013
Subject: Re: Unusual plated diesel sold on ebay
I remember seeing an ad in a very old MR for a pair of diesels that looked like that, very similar to the Tenshodos... advertised by International. Could be them.
Group: vintageHO Message: 20791 From: Howard R Garner Date: 1/7/2013
Subject: Re: Unusual plated diesel sold on ebay
> Does anybody know anything about this A-B set of plated diesels just sold on ebay claimed to be Tenshodo?
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/200871500979?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
>
> The lights on the front are something I've never seen. Also, the nose shape doesn't look like the usual Tenshodo diesels to me.
>
> Chuck Kinzer
> Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (2) . Top ^
> 3b
> Re: Unusual plated diesel sold on ebay
> Mon Jan 7, 2013 5:10 am (PST) . Posted by:
> "MRLENGAL2U@..." stephenlengal
> I remember seeing an ad in a very old MR for a pair of diesels that looked like that, very similar to the Tenshodos... advertised by International. Could be them.

RMC for December 1955, page 32 & 33 has a good review of the
International line of F units. There is also an ad in the September
1954 RMC on page 58 (FT shown)

The ebay item B unit trucks do not match the photos in RMC.
The A unit should have a cast weight the resembles a diesel generator

Research from "Composite Product Review Index" by Keystone Central
Enterprises copyright 1982

Howard Garner
Group: vintageHO Message: 20792 From: Richard White Date: 1/7/2013
Subject: Re: Walthers Roofs
Cool! I'd like to see this! -Richard
 

To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
From: mwbauers55@...
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 18:57:24 -0600
Subject: Re: [vintageHO] Walthers Roofs

 
Someday, I want to show you how you can take a single manufactured roof and duplicate it in a few ways to make several as a result.

With variations on casting or vacuforming the ends and making use of the rest of the roof into construction ribs with a minor tweak, you can make dozens of hollow, detailed clerestory roofs if you need to.

At it's most basic, I can take 2/3's of the length of a manufactured roof and cast dozens of dupes to splice into whatever length I need for a particular car. With a simple mod to that section of commercial roof I can make it build up to any clerestory window or vent pattern I need.

I can cast one end and slice the rest of the roof into ribs to be skinned over allowing me to make a dupe of that end and several roofs from the single roof.

We do not have to have the originals if they are long out of production, and we need several of them. Heavily modded Athearn, AHM, or other extra roofs as master parts will work just as well.

Best to ya...
Mike Bauers
Milwaukee, Wi, USA

On Jan 6, 2013, at 1:26 PM, john.allyn@... wrote:

>
>
> The Northeastern roof also has a clerestory section which seems a bit tall for a "modern" heavyweight car.
>
> John B. Allyn
>
>
>
> From: "Richard White" toytrain13@...>
> To: "Jim Heckard" vintageho@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 10:40:32 AM
> Subject: RE: [vintageHO] Walthers Roofs
>
>
> I'd stick with the screw. It has worked fine for me (no interiors). I'd paint the screw flat black so you can't see it through the windows, then when you want to take off the roof to show off your interior the screw won't be there anyway. Regards- Richard White

Group: vintageHO Message: 20793 From: Jim Heckard Date: 1/7/2013
Subject: F-units
Chuck,


I am very POOR at knowing Tenshodo from International ( IMP ). I
know the front light set up is wrong and added. The motor is not what I
call International and I believe the engines from ebay reworked in many
ways. The pictures of my engines I believe are IMP (but could be
Tenshodo ) Have a ball deciding.

Jim H
  @@attachment@@
Group: vintageHO Message: 20794 From: Carl Date: 1/7/2013
Subject: Re: Walthers Roofs
STEVE--A few thoughts:

GENERAL
1. Everything said below is less important than the fact that it's your railroad--do what you want.

WOOD VS. PLASTIC
1. Most of the tinplate-side Walthers kits were "prototype" specific to the extent that each did actually represent a real car as found on several or many different railroads.
2. Walthers roofs (wood or plastic) were meant to represent non-AC cars. Walthers made accessory kits for the roof and underbody pieces. The plastic roof was introduced fairly "late" in the life of the cars and was intended to eliminate the necessity to shape and concour the wood roof. (LaBelle charges for this service today).
3. Some, but not all, of the prototype cars represented by Walthers kits received "betterment" roofs, the kind you describe that have a uniform curvature from side to side, and an end which is anywhere from flat (straight up and down) to compound rounded, as found on a Harriman car. Wood roofs of this latter variety will need to be "shaped" to represent a prototype roof.
4. A wood roof, as has been mentioned, will need to be "relieved" some to match to the sides. The plastic roof will not need this, but as you indicate, does not sit flat.

ATTACHMENT METHOD
1. Except for coaches, most cars represented by the kits will have a compartment which can "hide" some or all of the attachment screw. This compartment may have to be unlit, be not as detailed, and/or have a "fat" wall, but a single machine screw can be hidden or at least disguised.
2. Since the roof is plastic, a bar can be cemented into or across the inside of the roof, drilled and tapped on the underside at each end, and used to secure two screws, each of which is closer to the walls and therefore more easily hidden by paint. Obviously, new holes would need to be drilled in the floor.

Best Wishes--CARL

Carl G. Camann
Atlanta, Georgia

>
Group: vintageHO Message: 20795 From: Jacob Bechtel Date: 1/7/2013
Subject: Re: F-units [4 Attachments]
Jim,
The F units in your pics look like the Tenshodos that passed
through my hands and shop in the 50's and 60s.

Jake Bechtel
Gadsden

On 1/7/13, Jim Heckard <jimheck@...> wrote:
> Chuck,
>
>
> I am very POOR at knowing Tenshodo from International ( IMP ). I
> know the front light set up is wrong and added. The motor is not what I
> call International and I believe the engines from ebay reworked in many
> ways. The pictures of my engines I believe are IMP (but could be
> Tenshodo ) Have a ball deciding.
>
> Jim H
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
Group: vintageHO Message: 20796 From: erieberk@wmconnect.com Date: 1/9/2013
Subject: Re: Unusual plated diesel sold on ebay
Hi Chuck,

I too have a feeling that the green marker lights may have been added. As
for it being a Tenshodo product, I don't know of them offering plated
models, although Jake mentions he's seen them. The only plated models that I'm
sure of being produced have been by Nickel Plate Products and a few other
later Japanese imports, but then I'm no expert on all brass manufacturers, so it
could be as Jake describes.

Much of what Tenshodo made, they've also distributed to IMP/Takara and New
One to sell (as has been already established here), but International never
offered any plated F-3's. IMP's GM EMD cab units were sold either as
unfinished brass kits or as factory assembled and finished (painted & lettered)
models in a small variety of up to ten different roadnames, depending on the
particular model -- FT, F-3, F-7 and F-9 -- and the year it was offered. So,
I'm sure we can rule out International (which brings into question
Tenshodo), although this is not to say that some modeler couldn't have sent his IMP
F-3 body out to get plated by an independent plater, albeit a bit far
fetched, however. None of my IMP catalogs or dealer sell-sheets show anything in
EMD cab units except for unpainted kits and factory painted and lettered
(but not plated) built up models, though.

Ray Wetzel</HTML>
Group: vintageHO Message: 20797 From: Jack Kelley Date: 1/9/2013
Subject: Re: Athearn 1960's Pacifics
Brad,

Do you still have the metal drivered Athearn Pacific? Please let me know.

Thanks,
Jack Kelley
jkelley01938ATyahoo.com

--- In vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, corlissbs@... wrote:
>
> I have 2 Athearn Pacific's, new in the box, that I will never use. One
> plastic driver and one metal driver. Both B&M. One is a train set box.
> They are a much better looking loco than the Mantua and the B&M Historical
> Society published the article on upgrading it to a fine running model. They
> are not cheap however.
>
> Brad Smith
> Franklin, WI
>
Group: vintageHO Message: 20798 From: vancampbell64 Date: 1/13/2013
Subject: Athearn dual-drive parts.
Hello,

I'm looking for a single part for one of my Athearn Dual-Drive F-7s. The piece I'm looking for is the driven shaft inside the truck that drives the wheels, not the one in the gear tower driven from the universals. I've located several Dual-Drive mechanisms on e-Bay but I'd hate to have to cannibalize a working unit to acquire the one part. Anyone have one of these that I can take off their hands?

Thanks, Van.
Group: vintageHO Message: 20799 From: vancampbell64 Date: 1/13/2013
Subject: Re: 0-6-0 Athearn drive gear
That's interesting stuff! It's similar to how I repaired the drive gear in mine. However, I first put a drop of ACC in the crack and put a spring clamp in position to close the gap in the gear as the ACC set. I them put a 1/8" drill bit through the gear (a snug fit is all that is needed so as not to break the split open again) then put the bit into a GOOD drill press. I then milled down the arms of the gear approx. .014" will a fine tooth flat file. I cut two pieces of K&S Engineering Stock #105 Round Aluminum Tubing (7/32" x .014") approx. the length of the arms of the gear. The two pieces of tubing then press fit onto the arms of the gear and effectively return the gear to factory dimensions never to split again. As with Jim's repair, you will need to replace the drivers carefully, quartering them as usual. My switcher has a new lease on life and hope yours will too!

Van B. Campbell
--- In vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, Jim Heckard wrote:
>
>
>
> Dr Diggers, Jake B,
>
>
> I'm sending a number of pictures of a repaired 0-6-0 drive gear.
> By shaving the edges of the arms of the gear you can force brass washers
> on which will pull the split in the gear together without any glue.
> While I know I had some discussions on this site I also might have had
> some on another Yahoo site. I think I even made a drawing of the gear
> out of the saddle to show where to take edges down just enough to press
> the washers on.
>
> This is the last repaired one I have in my box so I'll be keeping
> it for my reference. Since I am not feeling to good I can't take on
> trying to make more any. Hope the pictures are a start to see what can
> be done.
>
> Don't forget to quarter the drivers and press in the gear in the
> right positions the first time.
>
> Jim H
>
Group: vintageHO Message: 20800 From: lewis.ted16 Date: 1/20/2013
Subject: JC Silversides kits
Is anyone an avid collector of the JC Silversides kits? I have one to trade...in original box-"70' Penn. Combination Baggage Lounge" consists of wood floor and round roof and a square piece that might be a center sill, two cast ends with brass slotted screws,and two sheet metal sides with ten windows then a single window, the other side has twelve windows together. The baggage doors have a round window. Will trade for an Ulrich metal hopper or similar.
Group: vintageHO Message: 20801 From: cwrailman Date: 1/21/2013
Subject: The Best Power Tool Deal in Town

While many of you may already know this check out my 01/21/2013 Blog for info on what I think is a great deal on a useful power tool.  In addition, if you have an old Dremel hand held that has ceased to function I may have a remedy for it.  

Denny

Janitor in Training

CW Loco and Car Rebuild Shops

WEB site: CWRailman.com 

Facebook: CWRailman 
Group: vintageHO Message: 20802 From: river_dweller_ohio Date: 1/23/2013
Subject: FW:Hello!
Group: vintageHO Message: 20803 From: cwrailman Date: 1/26/2013
Subject: Re: The Best Power Tool Deal in Town

I received 16 emails from folks wondering how to revive their Dremel model 750 Mini Mite so I have posted a follow up blog Reviving a Dremel 750 Mini Mite with information on what I did for those who might be interested.  

Denny

Janitor in Training

CW Loco and Car Rebuild Shops

WEB site: CWRailman.com 

Facebook: CWRailman 
--- In vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, "cwrailman" wrote:
>
>
> While many of you may already know this check out my 01/21/2013 Blog
> for info on what I think is a great deal on
> a useful power tool. In addition, if you have an old Dremel hand held
> that has ceased to function I may have a remedy for it.
>
> Denny
>
> Janitor in Training
>
> CW Loco and Car Rebuild Shops
>
> WEB site: CWRailman.com
> Facebook: CWRailman
>
>
Group: vintageHO Message: 20804 From: cwrailman Date: 1/28/2013
Subject: Vintage Brass Gem Birdey Locomotive

If any of you have one of the vintage brass Gem Birdey locomotives, someone must have at least one in the closet, and you would like to improve it's operating characteristics, check out the Projects page to see the latest remotoring project to come out of the California Western Loco and Car Rebuild shops.  In the early 1960's, this Gem model was selling for $69.95 when other much larger and prototypically accurate models were selling for $39.95.

We now return you to our regular scheduled programming. 

Denny

Janitor in Training

CW Loco and Car Rebuild Shops

WEB site: CWRailman.com 

Facebook: CWRailman 

 

Group: vintageHO Message: 20805 From: RalphB Date: 1/29/2013
Subject: Re: MKD-4 couplers
--- In vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, "shawmut_fan" wrote:
>
> Does anyone have a source for Kadee MKD-4 couplers? I've got some older diecast kits with built in coupler boxes where I either need these couplers or perform some drastic modifications. Kadee doesn't make them anymore.
>
-------------
I got lucky and snagged a package of no. 4s on eBay last week. I wasn't looking for them specifically and just happened to see them. Now I have to go digging through my older cars to which ones still need these particular couplers. I'll get to that after I get my current projects done and off the work bench.

Ralph Balfoort
Group: vintageHO Message: 20806 From: Jim Heckard Date: 1/29/2013
Subject: Varney Winning Bid
Attachments :
While sitting around here not feeling good I decided to buy a
missing Varney 60' Shorty passenger car I needed. Go to Buy It Now
number 300840462749 HO Scale Varney Special Streamliner. This is made
from wood and celluloid painted sides. This is the Obs from a 3 car
set, PA88. This was the only colors available. They were made 1949-1951.
This looks to be missing one truck.

I have a couple of these Observations but everyone has a bad body
with paint missing from the round end of the car. This one is in good
shape. Can't type more info with shaky fingers.

Jim H
  @@attachment@@
Group: vintageHO Message: 20807 From: Victor Bitleris Date: 1/29/2013
Subject: Re: MKD-4 couplers
According to the Kadee web site, they claim you should use the #148 whisker couplers and a #213 sleeve.  I don't think Kadee sells the sleeve by itself.  I think you need to buy the #213 box?  See the following.
Other than that, scour the train shows and eBay, just like we do looking for Central Valley passenger car trucks.
Regards,
Vic Bitleris Raleigh, NC


To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
From: Alpvalsys@...
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:31:47 +0000
Subject: [vintageHO] Re: MKD-4 couplers

 
--- In vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, "shawmut_fan" wrote:
>
> Does anyone have a source for Kadee MKD-4 couplers? I've got some older diecast kits with built in coupler boxes where I either need these couplers or perform some drastic modifications. Kadee doesn't make them anymore.
>
-------------
I got lucky and snagged a package of no. 4s on eBay last week. I wasn't looking for them specifically and just happened to see them. Now I have to go digging through my older cars to which ones still need these particular couplers. I'll get to that after I get my current projects done and off the work bench.

Ralph Balfoort


Group: vintageHO Message: 20808 From: Howard R Garner Date: 1/29/2013
Subject: KaDee #4
If someone wants them, I have 6 pair.

Howard Garner
Pickens, SC
Group: vintageHO Message: 20809 From: Chuck Higdon Date: 1/29/2013
Subject: Re: Varney Winning Bid [1 Attachment]

Hello Jim,

 

On list, that looks to be in good shape, glad you got it.  Lets hope the truck is hiding in the package some where.

 

Take care,

 

Chuck Higdon - check out my FEC layout at

https://picasaweb.google.com/102920461774912857361

 


From: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com [mailto: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jim Heckard
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 1:40 PM
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vintageHO] Varney Winning Bid [1 Attachment]

 

 



While sitting around here not feeling good I decided to buy a
missing Varney 60' Shorty passenger car I needed. Go to Buy It Now
number 300840462749 HO Scale Varney Special Streamliner. This is made
from wood and celluloid painted sides. This is the Obs from a 3 car
set, PA88. This was the only colors available. They were made 1949-1951.
This looks to be missing one truck.

I have a couple of these Observations but everyone has a bad body
with paint missing from the round end of the car. This one is in good
shape. Can't type more info with shaky fingers.

Jim H

Group: vintageHO Message: 20810 From: erieberk Date: 1/29/2013
Subject: Re: Varney Winning Bid [1 Attachment]
Jim,

Nice find! -- Congrats, it looks mint. I don't have this set, and was
wondering about the colors of these cars. Spanagel doesn't illustrate them (in
his Varney Guide), but he describes the three car set -- the PA-33, PA-44
and PA-88 -- as being green and yellow with black stripes. On the other hand,
Varney doesn't give a color scheme for the PA-33 but describes (in the 1949
catalog) the PA-88 as green and yellow. However, he describes the PA-44
as: "It's black and yellow, like PA-33 and PA-88." You're probably even aware
of this, but it's sure a confusing conflict. As this was the only one you
were missing, in decent shape, I'm presuming Spanagel got it right in that
they're all green and yellow, as it sounds your PA-33 and PA-44 probably are
also. Best of luck with this new acquisition..

Ray F.W.

</HTML>
Group: vintageHO Message: 20811 From: shawmut_fan Date: 1/30/2013
Subject: Re: MKD-4 couplers

I haven't had any problem getting them on E Bay at a normal price.  I've also bought log car couplers on E Bay which are MKD-4's with a special box, again at a good price.  There are some cars -- those with open platforms of thin floors -- where an MKD-4 is the only way to go.  Besides the box looks better than any other box that they make.


 

John B. Allyn


From: "Victor Bitleris" <bitlerisvj@...>
To: vintageho@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:48:02 PM
Subject: RE: [vintageHO] Re: MKD-4 couplers

 

According to the Kadee web site, they claim you should use the #148 whisker couplers and a #213 sleeve.  I don't think Kadee sells the sleeve by itself.  I think you need to buy the #213 box?  See the following.
Other than that, scour the train shows and eBay, just like we do looking for Central Valley passenger car trucks.
Regards,
Vic Bitleris Raleigh, NC


To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
From: Alpvalsys@...
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:31:47 +0000
Subject: [vintageHO] Re: MKD-4 couplers

 
--- In vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, "shawmut_fan" wrote:
>
> Does anyone have a source for Kadee MKD-4 couplers? I've got some older diecast kits with built in coupler boxes where I either need these couplers or perform some drastic modifications. Kadee doesn't make them anymore.
>
-------------
I got lucky and snagged a package of no. 4s on eBay last week. I wasn't looking for them specifically and just happened to see them. Now I have to go digging through my older cars to which ones still need these particular couplers. I'll get to that after I get my current projects done and off the work bench.

Ralph Balfoort


Group: vintageHO Message: 20812 From: Jim Heckard Date: 1/30/2013
Subject: Re: Varney Winning Bid
Ray F W

Can't type too much with shakey fingers.  PA 33/44/88 were all the same set. There all came in only one color. It was Green, Yellow with Black strips. Same type of paint job as the C&NW. The Baggage/Combine and Coach I have
were assembled and had some missing paint which I filled in the best I could.  The nicks were on the small side. The Obs looks mint and will be left untouched.

                                  Jim H



On 1/29/2013 8:32 PM, erieberk@... wrote:
 

Jim,

Nice find! -- Congrats, it looks mint. I don't have this set, and was
wondering about the colors of these cars. Spanagel doesn't illustrate them (in
his Varney Guide), but he describes the three car set -- the PA-33, PA-44
and PA-88 -- as being green and yellow with black stripes. On the other hand,
Varney doesn't give a color scheme for the PA-33 but describes (in the 1949
catalog) the PA-88 as green and yellow. However, he describes the PA-44
as: "It's black and yellow, like PA-33 and PA-88." You're probably even aware
of this, but it's sure a confusing conflict. As this was the only one you
were missing, in decent shape, I'm presuming Spanagel got it right in that
they're all green and yellow, as it sounds your PA-33 and PA-44 probably are
also. Best of luck with this new acquisition..

Ray F.W.



Group: vintageHO Message: 20813 From: Victor Bitleris Date: 1/30/2013
Subject: Re: MKD-4 couplers
Yeah, I was quite disappointed that kadee dropped the MKD-4's, they had a really nice feel to them and the box had some detail to it as well.  I am guessing that Kadee wasn't selling enough of them to keep them in production?  Currently my stash is enough for 8 cars, but that can go pretty quick.  I tend to use them ONLY for specific cars, like some Ambroid kits and older MDC with a cast frame.
Regards,
Vic Bitleris Raleigh, NC


To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
CC: vintageho@yahoogroups.com
From: john.allyn@...
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:33:14 +0000
Subject: Re: [vintageHO] Re: MKD-4 couplers

 

I haven't had any problem getting them on E Bay at a normal price.  I've also bought log car couplers on E Bay which are MKD-4's with a special box, again at a good price.  There are some cars -- those with open platforms of thin floors -- where an MKD-4 is the only way to go.  Besides the box looks better than any other box that they make.

 
John B. Allyn


From: "Victor Bitleris" <bitlerisvj@...>
To: vintageho@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:48:02 PM
Subject: RE: [vintageHO] Re: MKD-4 couplers

 

According to the Kadee web site, they claim you should use the #148 whisker couplers and a #213 sleeve.  I don't think Kadee sells the sleeve by itself.  I think you need to buy the #213 box?  See the following.
Other than that, scour the train shows and eBay, just like we do looking for Central Valley passenger car trucks.
Regards,
Vic Bitleris Raleigh, NC


To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
From: Alpvalsys@...
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:31:47 +0000
Subject: [vintageHO] Re: MKD-4 couplers

 
--- In vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, "shawmut_fan" wrote:
>
> Does anyone have a source for Kadee MKD-4 couplers? I've got some older diecast kits with built in coupler boxes where I either need these couplers or perform some drastic modifications. Kadee doesn't make them anymore.
>
-------------
I got lucky and snagged a package of no. 4s on eBay last week. I wasn't looking for them specifically and just happened to see them. Now I have to go digging through my older cars to which ones still need these particular couplers. I'll get to that after I get my current projects done and off the work bench.

Ralph Balfoort




Group: vintageHO Message: 20814 From: Lon Walker Date: 1/30/2013
Subject: hey

hey have a look http://bit.ly/WQrg0N



Lon
Group: vintageHO Message: 20815 From: shawmut_fan Date: 1/30/2013
Subject: Re: MKD-4 couplers
I'm doing the same thing, including taking them off of cars which don't need their special features. 

John B. Allyn


From: "Victor Bitleris" <bitlerisvj@...>
To: vintageho@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:57:08 AM
Subject: RE: [vintageHO] Re: MKD-4 couplers

 

Yeah, I was quite disappointed that kadee dropped the MKD-4's, they had a really nice feel to them and the box had some detail to it as well.  I am guessing that Kadee wasn't selling enough of them to keep them in production?  Currently my stash is enough for 8 cars, but that can go pretty quick.  I tend to use them ONLY for specific cars, like some Ambroid kits and older MDC with a cast frame.
Regards,
Vic Bitleris Raleigh, NC


To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
CC: vintageho@yahoogroups.com
From: john.allyn@...
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:33:14 +0000
Subject: Re: [vintageHO] Re: MKD-4 couplers

 

I haven't had any problem getting them on E Bay at a normal price.  I've also bought log car couplers on E Bay which are MKD-4's with a special box, again at a good price.  There are some cars -- those with open platforms of thin floors -- where an MKD-4 is the only way to go.  Besides the box looks better than any other box that they make.

 
John B. Allyn


From: "Victor Bitleris" <bitlerisvj@...>
To: vintageho@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:48:02 PM
Subject: RE: [vintageHO] Re: MKD-4 couplers

 

According to the Kadee web site, they claim you should use the #148 whisker couplers and a #213 sleeve.  I don't think Kadee sells the sleeve by itself.  I think you need to buy the #213 box?  See the following.
Other than that, scour the train shows and eBay, just like we do looking for Central Valley passenger car trucks.
Regards,
Vic Bitleris Raleigh, NC


To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
From: Alpvalsys@...
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:31:47 +0000
Subject: [vintageHO] Re: MKD-4 couplers

 
--- In vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, "shawmut_fan" wrote:
>
> Does anyone have a source for Kadee MKD-4 couplers? I've got some older diecast kits with built in coupler boxes where I either need these couplers or perform some drastic modifications. Kadee doesn't make them anymore.
>
-------------
I got lucky and snagged a package of no. 4s on eBay last week. I wasn't looking for them specifically and just happened to see them. Now I have to go digging through my older cars to which ones still need these particular couplers. I'll get to that after I get my current projects done and off the work bench.

Ralph Balfoort




Group: vintageHO Message: 20816 From: Howard R Garner Date: 1/30/2013
Subject: Re: KaDee #4
>
> Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:29 am (PST) . Posted by:
> "Howard R Garner" earlyrail
> If someone wants them, I have 6 pair.
>
> Howard Garner
> Pickens, SC


They are on their way to a new home.

Howard Garner
Group: vintageHO Message: 20817 From: corlissbs Date: 1/31/2013
Subject: Funeral Sale?
I just returned from the funeral of a good friend of mine.  We bought HO kits together for many years, starting in the early 1970's and hobby shopped together.  He never built his and now his widow has about 600 blue box Athearn, TM of Calif., TM of IL, MDC, and other plastic kits of cars and locomotives, along with RTR Rivarossi, etc.  He was going to build his dream layout next year when he would retire.  But he died of a heart attack instead.  Do any of you have any idea what to do with 600 kits that would give the woman a fair price?  I know that there are the Athearn collectors group, but don't know if they are looking for the older stuff or the new stuff.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Brad Smith
Franklin, WI
Group: vintageHO Message: 20818 From: Mike Bauers Date: 1/31/2013
Subject: New - Old find
Recently I got an interesting old era brass HO trolley body from eBay.

I was just examining it and was surprised to find that the roof is partly made from a tobacco can. The scribed siding is hand scribbed

It looks like it was built from scratch in the 50's or 60's and from what I can see of the lower body, it's never had a chassis or a power unit in her.

I thought you folks would find it to be interesting. I'll attach images.

I think I'll clean her up and think seriously about finishing her with stained glass windows and full lighting. I put it that way because I'm also thinking of using her as a 3d pattern to laser cut and complete that into a full model. At the least, she will be cleaned up, documented in photos and eventually displayed with the New Age versions of her.

Leaving her intact with the tobacco can sheet metal is just too tempting.

Best to ya...
Mike Bauers
Milwaukee, Wi, USA
  @@attachment@@
Group: vintageHO Message: 20819 From: Rick Jones Date: 1/31/2013
Subject: Re: Funeral Sale?
On 1/31/2013 6:17 PM, corlissbs@... wrote:
>
>
> I just returned from the funeral of a good friend of mine. We bought HO
> kits together for many years, starting in the early 1970's and hobby
> shopped together. He never built his and now his widow has about 600
> blue box Athearn, TM of Calif., TM of IL, MDC, and other plastic kits of
> cars and locomotives, along with RTR Rivarossi, etc. He was going to
> build his dream layout next year when he would retire. But he died of a
> heart attack instead. Do any of you have any idea what to do with 600
> kits that would give the woman a fair price? I know that there are the
> Athearn collectors group, but don't know if they are looking for the
> older stuff or the new stuff. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

$5 apiece for the Athearn and MDC kits, maybe a buck or two more for
the TM would be fair prices I think. Would get her a few grand if all of
them could be sold. No idea of the relative value of Rivarossi.
The problem, of course, is how to sell them. Online will take
forever, but a dealer or liquidator is just going to offer her a
pittance of their value in order to turn a high profit.

--

Rick Jones

I'm neither for nor against apathy.
Group: vintageHO Message: 20820 From: Matt Martin Date: 1/31/2013
Subject: FS: Freight Cars (Atlas, Walthers, Red Caboose)
Evening group,

Still in the process of thinning out the herd. All of these freight cars are new in box unless otherwise noted:

Accurail:

Illinois Railway Museum AAR 40' Steel Box - IRM #970001 - $5

Atlas:

(1959-4) Wabash ACF 6 Bay Cylindrical Hopper - WAB #33023 - $8

Con-Cor:

Paradise & Pacific (McCormick Railroad Park Scottsdale, AZ) 54ft. gondola kit - P&P #5005 - $5

Red Caboose:

(RC-8047-2) Illinois Terminal 40' AAR Steel Box - IT #6014 - $10

Walthers (RTR):

(932-23688) ADM Milling 50' Airslide Hopper 2-Pack - ADMX #53002, 53075 - $20
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/932-23688

Walthers (Kits):

(932-9106) ADM PS-2 Covered Hopper 4427 3-Pack - TLDX #3109, 3114, 3124 - $18
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/932-9106

(932-4812) 89' Autorack Santa Fe - TTGX #912148 - $10
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/932-4812

(932-4952) 89' F89F TOFC Flat TTX Twin 45 - KTTX #930363 - $8
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/932-4952

Other:

Con-Cor Model Railroader 60th Anniversary 18 wheeler - $3

I accept PayPal (preferred), MO, and checks (must wait to clear before shipment).

If you have any questions or inquiries about these items please send me an email offlist at bnsf5264@...
Thank you!

Matt Martin
Phoenix, AZ



Group: vintageHO Message: 20821 From: Steven D Johnson Date: 2/1/2013
Subject: Re: Funeral Sale?

Brad,

 

Sorry to hear about the loss of your friend. 

 

In several similar circumstances around here, I have seen many collections sold at model train shows, mostly the locally-produced ones.  Sometimes a friend or relative will rent a few tables to sell the items.  Some clubs that sponsor the shows have a “company store” set up where their members man the tables and sell items that that are brought in, usually for a small fee.  The club here in Nashville does that for 10 per cent of the sales price. 

 

Just a couple of ideas for you.

 

Steve Johnson

Nashville, TN 

 

From: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vintageHO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of corlissbs@...
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:17 PM
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vintageHO] Funeral Sale?

 

 

I just returned from the funeral of a good friend of mine.  We bought HO kits together for many years, starting in the early 1970's and hobby shopped together.  He never built his and now his widow has about 600 blue box Athearn, TM of Calif., TM of IL, MDC, and other plastic kits of cars and locomotives, along with RTR Rivarossi, etc.  He was going to build his dream layout next year when he would retire.  But he died of a heart attack instead.  Do any of you have any idea what to do with 600 kits that would give the woman a fair price?  I know that there are the Athearn collectors group, but don't know if they are looking for the older stuff or the new stuff.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Brad Smith

Franklin, WI

Group: vintageHO Message: 20822 From: luvprr2003 Date: 2/1/2013
Subject: Re: Funeral Sale?
Again, folks, as I've been preaching for some time now, try to give your surviving spouse an idea as to where your stuff can go if you pass. Leaving it up to he/she to do so "cold turkey" is not a very nice way to ensure the most fond memories of you, and often adds more to an already huge burden in many cases. Gotta bite the bullet. . .
 
In a message dated 2/1/2013 2:16:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tenncentralrwy@... writes:


Brad,

 

Sorry to hear about the loss of your friend. 

 

In several similar circumstances around here, I have seen many collections sold at model train shows, mostly the locally-produced ones.  Sometimes a friend or relative will rent a few tables to sell the items.  Some clubs that sponsor the shows have a “company store” set up where their members man the tables and sell items that that are brought in, usually for a small fee.  The club here in Nashville does that for 10 per cent of the sales price. 

 

Just a couple of ideas for you.

 

Steve Johnson

Nashville, TN 

 

From: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vintageHO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of corlissbs@...
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:17 PM
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vintageHO] Funeral Sale?

 

 

I just returned from the funeral of a good friend of mine.  We bought HO kits together for many years, starting in the early 1970's and hobby shopped together.  He never built his and now his widow has about 600 blue box Athearn , TM of Calif., TM of IL, MDC, and other plastic kits of cars and locomotives, along with RTR Rivarossi, etc.  He was going to build his dream layout next year when he would retire.  But he died of a heart attack instead.  Do any of you have any idea what to do with 600 kits that would give the woman a fair price?  I know that there are the Athearn collectors group, but don't know if they are looking for the older stuff or the new stuff.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Brad Smith

Franklin, WI

Group: vintageHO Message: 20823 From: CinderCrusher Date: 2/1/2013
Subject: Re: Funeral Sale?
Brad,

You might try checking with your local division of the NMRA. Our local division has done that a couple of times. They have taken a deceased person's collection and have displayed it at the monthly meetings with prices posted on each piece. It might take many months to a couple of years to sell it all. Usually the left overs at the end receive reducing prices until gone.

If you don't know of the local NMRA division try asking at a local hobby shop as to how to contact them, or better yet attend a meeting as a guest and state your case at the meeting. Our meetings are very receptive to guests, so I presume they all are.

If you go this route expect to reimburse the division a small percentage of the sales received for their work. It isn't easy to haul a large collection to the meeting every month, but we have one member who is in charge of the "company store" and who does this as a volunteer.

Bill DeFoe

-
>
>
> I just returned from the funeral of a good friend of mine. We bought HO
> kits together for many years, starting in the early 1970's and hobby
> shopped together. He never built his and now his widow has about 600 blue box
> Athearn , TM of Calif., TM of IL, MDC, and other plastic kits of cars and
> locomotives, along with RTR Rivarossi, etc. He was going to build his dream
> layout next year when he would retire. But he died of a heart attack
> instead. Do any of you have any idea what to do with 600 kits that would give
> the woman a fair price? I know that there are the Athearn collectors group,
> but don't know if they are looking for the older stuff or the new stuff.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> Brad Smith
>
> Franklin, WI
>
Group: vintageHO Message: 20824 From: RalphB Date: 2/1/2013
Subject: Re: Funeral Sale?
Take a table at a model railroad show. Price a bit high, but be ready to negotiate down - considerably. Get a couple of friends to work the table, people who knew the hobbyist and know what's for sale. I've picked up some bargains at these tables, but it might take two or three (or more) shows before the collection is whittled down to where the survivors will take a bulk offer from a re-seller.

Ralph Balfoort

--- In vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, corlissbs@... wrote:
>
> I just returned from the funeral of a good friend of mine. We bought HO
> kits together for many years, starting in the early 1970's and hobby shopped
> together. He never built his and now his widow has about 600 blue box
> Athearn, TM of Calif., TM of IL, MDC, and other plastic kits of cars and
> locomotives, along with RTR Rivarossi, etc. He was going to build his dream
> layout next year when he would retire. But he died of a heart attack instead.
Group: vintageHO Message: 20825 From: Sean Naylor Date: 2/2/2013
Subject: Instructions needed for MRC SOUND MASTER 210 SOUND MACHINE
Attachments :
Hi All,

I was wondering if anyone has access to a set of instructions for a MRC
Sound Master 210 Sound system.

I could really use a PDF copy, but would take any copy someone is willing to send me.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. 

Thanks.
 
Sean

"If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough!" - Mario Andretti!
  @@attachment@@
Group: vintageHO Message: 20826 From: cwrailman Date: 2/2/2013
Subject: Re: Funeral Sale?

If I may add to this suggestion that you establish and maintain an inventory of all items especially motive power and expensive rolling stock and if at all possible apply values to all the items.  An electronic copy of this should be stored off site in either a safety deposit box or with a trusted friend.  Small items such as nuts and bolts do add up but can be accounted for in a bulk calculation.  Some years back I did an inventory and found I had over $600 in just window and door castings in my inventory.  About 65% of those were still in packages and the others had been broken open and were stored in bulk in parts drawers.  I did not list these individually but placed an approximate replacement value for them into my inventory sheet.  By the way, this is also necessary in case you have a fire or theft.  No insurance agent is going to believe that you had $10,000-$100,000 worth of train stuff.  Thirty bottles of Floquil paint at current replacement value of $5 per bottle adds up to $150.   Start adding up your financial investment and you will be surprised at how much you have. 

Denny

Janitor in Training

CW Loco and Car Rebuild Shops

WEB site: CWRailman.com 

Facebook: CWRailman 


--- In vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, luvprr@... wrote:
>
> Again, folks, as I've been preaching for some time now, try to give your
> surviving spouse an idea as to where your stuff can go if you pass. Leaving
> it up to he/she to do so "cold turkey" is not a very nice way to ensure the
> most fond memories of you, and often adds more to an already huge burden in
> many cases. Gotta bite the bullet. . .
>
>
> In a message dated 2/1/2013 2:16:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> tenncentralrwy@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> Brad,
> Sorry to hear about the loss of your friend.
> In several similar circumstances around here, I have seen many collections
> sold at model train shows, mostly the locally-produced ones. Sometimes a
> friend or relative will rent a few tables to sell the items. Some clubs
> that sponsor the shows have a “company store” set up where their members man
> the tables and sell items that that are brought in, usually for a small
> fee. The club here in Nashville does that for 10 per cent of the sales
> price.
> Just a couple of ideas for you.
> Steve Johnson
> Nashville, TN
>
>
> From: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vintageHO@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of corlissbs@...
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:17 PM
> To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [vintageHO] Funeral Sale?
>
>
>
>
>
> I just returned from the funeral of a good friend of mine. We bought HO
> kits together for many years, starting in the early 1970's and hobby
> shopped together. He never built his and now his widow has about 600 blue box
> Athearn , TM of Calif., TM of IL, MDC, and other plastic kits of cars and
> locomotives, along with RTR Rivarossi, etc. He was going to build his dream
> layout next year when he would retire. But he died of a heart attack
> instead. Do any of you have any idea what to do with 600 kits that would give
> the woman a fair price? I know that there are the Athearn collectors group,
> but don't know if they are looking for the older stuff or the new stuff.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> Brad Smith
>
> Franklin, WI
>
Group: vintageHO Message: 20827 From: Mike Bauers Date: 2/3/2013
Subject: An interview and easy tutorial
Learn how a veteran model builder has made his models from wood and layered card since the 40's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGpQ1PJnYig

He believes he has made 5,000 models over time..........

Best to ya...
Mike Bauers
Milwaukee, Wi, USA



Best to ya...
Mike Bauers
Milwaukee, Wi, USA
Group: vintageHO Message: 20828 From: Mike Bauers Date: 2/3/2013
Subject: Won't ship to USA...
lI'm running across more and more eBay postings that state they won't ship to the USA.

Anyone know why??


Mike Bauers
Sent from my iPhone

Group: vintageHO Message: 20829 From: corlissbs Date: 2/4/2013
Subject: Re: Won't ship to USA...
Probably for the same reason that many US dealers won't ship overseas.  The Europeans are famous for saying that the item didn't arrive.  There is no way to track the shipment.  Then Paypal takes the full amount back from the seller.  Sellers don't have that trouble with Japanese buyers.
 
Brad Smith
Franklin, WI
 
 
Group: vintageHO Message: 20830 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 2/4/2013
Subject: Re: Won't ship to USA...
While I haven't done business on eBay in a long time (As one of the things I do professionally is build small business websites for those wanting off eBay, I figured I should set the example), I do know that some places are almost famous for packages not arriving. Italy comes to mind rather quickly.

The US Postal Service's crummy tracking system, pretty much nonexistent for international packages, doesn't help matters.

-Steve Neubaum

--- On Mon, 2/4/13, corlissbs@... <corlissbs@...> wrote:

From: corlissbs@... <corlissbs@...>
Subject: Re: [vintageHO] Won't ship to USA...
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, February 4, 2013, 7:07 AM

 

Probably for the same reason that many US dealers won't ship overseas.  The Europeans are famous for saying that the item didn't arrive.  There is no way to track the shipment.  Then Paypal takes the full amount back from the seller.  Sellers don't have that trouble with Japanese buyers.
 
Brad Smith
Franklin, WI
 
 
Group: vintageHO Message: 20831 From: corlissbs Date: 2/4/2013
Subject: Re: Won't ship to USA...
The new Ebay thing is to put Delivery Confirmation on everything.  My wife sold a group of items to a Norwegian who said the stuff was damaged so he wanted to keep the items and get his money back.  It took her several hours to fight that one.
 
She recently bought an item off Ebay but it was never delivered-anywhere.  Been close to a month, now.  The tracking stops at a Post Office in Illinois.  Ebay gave her money back, which they took from the seller.  I have never had a bad Ebay experience and I do buy a lot of train related stuff.  But there are Ebay horror stories.
 
One of the new scams is that if one has a certain item that is broke, he buys the exact item and then when he gets it, takes the good one and then says the item is broken and returns it for a full refund.
 
Brad Smith
Franklin,WI
 
 
Group: vintageHO Message: 20832 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 2/4/2013
Subject: Re: Won't ship to USA...
With model trains, I only had one bad experience as a seller. Dealing in older PC parts, on the other hand, too many to list. Had a bunch of older nVidia Riva 128 video cards I was selling. Made it clear these are old cards, that the 128 does NOT indicate video memory size. Despite being clear about the cards, some dummy still bought them then claimed they were not as advertised. At least PayPal ruled in my favor.

On the other hand, I have overall had very good experienced as a buyer and seller of model trains. One fellow, an N scale modeler, now buys things from me direct. Mostly stuff like trucks and small parts.

Plus, with the old 78 RPM records I play, there is a fellow not too far from here that sells them. One time, he was passing by Waukegan on his way to Wisconsin, and stopped by my shop, and hand delivered the records. These are old shellac records, from the days before vinyl. Paid him cash, everyone was happy.

I'm afraid eBay is like the old gray mare: "Ain't what she used to be".

-Steve Neubaum

--- On Mon, 2/4/13, corlissbs@... <corlissbs@...> wrote:

From: corlissbs@... <corlissbs@...>
Subject: Re: [vintageHO] Won't ship to USA...
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, February 4, 2013, 7:21 AM

 

The new Ebay thing is to put Delivery Confirmation on everything.  My wife sold a group of items to a Norwegian who said the stuff was damaged so he wanted to keep the items and get his money back.  It took her several hours to fight that one.
 
She recently bought an item off Ebay but it was never delivered-anywhere.  Been close to a month, now.  The tracking stops at a Post Office in Illinois.  Ebay gave her money back, which they took from the seller.  I have never had a bad Ebay experience and I do buy a lot of train related stuff.  But there are Ebay horror stories.
 
One of the new scams is that if one has a certain item that is broke, he buys the exact item and then when he gets it, takes the good one and then says the item is broken and returns it for a full refund.
 
Brad Smith
Franklin,WI
 
 
Group: vintageHO Message: 20833 From: cwrailman Date: 2/4/2013
Subject: Re: Won't ship to USA...

My perspective as a seller occassionally selling to someone over seas.  There are many reasons.  First it is much more costly for just the shipping and even if the buyer pays the extra, it takes more time to fill out all the forms which themselves seem to change periodically and I never know if I have the correct form.  In addition some shipping services, such as the one I normally use because it is close to home, will not except foreign packages so I have to go to the terminal. O r in my case the main post office.  In addition Pay Pal charges more for handling overseas financial transactions depending on the country.  That is not a constant like it is when I sell to someone in the US .  Since many sellers are working on a really tight profit margin some just don't bother with over seas sales.      

Denny

Janitor in Training

CW Loco and Car Rebuild Shops

WEB site: CWRailman.com 

Facebook: CWRailman 
--- In vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, Mike Bauers wrote:
>
> lI'm running across more and more eBay postings that state they won't ship to the USA.
>
> Anyone know why??
>
>
> Mike Bauers
> Sent from my iPhone
>
Group: vintageHO Message: 20834 From: Mr. Common Sense Date: 2/4/2013
Subject: Re: Won't ship to USA...
Hello there Denny and other model railroaders:
I have gotten more than several small packages from abroad (phono cartridges, l.e.d.s, and such) with little problem... England, China, and Canada mostly. In fact, the reason I purchased from foreign sources was the product cost and reasonable shipping.
What really drives me crazy is the sometimes high shipping costs from American sellers. It doesn't cost $10 or more for USPS mailing of a couple of ounces no matter how much bubble wrap is used. Much of the profit, it seems, is in the shipping no matter what the winning bid is. A friend that sells a lot on e-bay complains about the same thing. What he does is make the minimum bid high enough, and then makes a reasonable shipping charge wich includes packing, etc.
Thanks for your consideration.





--- In vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, "cwrailman" wrote:
>
>
> My perspective as a seller occassionally selling to someone over seas.
> There are many reasons. First it is much more costly for just the
> shipping and even if the buyer pays the extra, it takes more time to
> fill out all the forms which themselves seem to change periodically and
> I never know if I have the correct form. In addition some shipping
> services, such as the one I normally use because it is close to home,
> will not except foreign packages so I have to go to the terminal. Or in
> my case the main post office. In addition Pay Pal charges more for
> handling overseas financial transactions depending on the country. That
> is not a constant like it is when I sell to someone in the US. Since
> many sellers are working on a really tight profit margin some just
> don't bother with over seas sales.
>
> Denny
>
> Janitor in Training
>
> CW Loco and Car Rebuild Shops
>
> WEB site: CWRailman.com
> Facebook: CWRailman
>
> --- In vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, Mike Bauers wrote:
> >
> > lI'm running across more and more eBay postings that state they won't
> ship to the USA.
> >
> > Anyone know why??
> >
> >
> > Mike Bauers
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
>
Group: vintageHO Message: 20835 From: dwaite2000 Date: 2/4/2013
Subject: Re: Won't ship to US
Hello All,

I have been shipping items overseas (mostly the UK, OZ and Canada) for
many years. The PO requirements are arcane to say the
least and it is sometimes difficult to tell ahead of time what the cost
will be. Selling on eBay only makes it worse as they require you
to quote a shipping cost when you have no idea where it's going or how
much someone may buy and what the package will weigh.

On Jan. 27th all US postal rates went up. Some overseas rates as much as
40%! I don't know if sending to the US rates also went up.

Dick Waite
Group: vintageHO Message: 20836 From: Sean Naylor Date: 2/5/2013
Subject: Re: Funeral Sale?
Here!! Here!! Denny!!

It often astonishes me! Especially after a profitable week of selling stuff and I see how little is actually going out the door, when compared to what I have in boxes or on shelves.  All those little pieces for sure add up and can become a great deal. 

It surprised the heck out of my accountant for sure!  

Sean 

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 2, 2013, at 1:43 PM, "cwrailman" <cwrailman@...> wrote:

 

If I may add to this suggestion that you establish and maintain an inventory of all items especially motive power and expensive rolling stock and if at all possible apply values to all the items.  An electronic copy of this should be stored off site in either a safety deposit box or with a trusted friend.  Small items such as nuts and bolts do add up but can be accounted for in a bulk calculation.  Some years back I did an inventory and found I had over $600 in just window and door castings in my inventory.  About 65% of those were still in packages and the others had been broken open and were stored in bulk in parts drawers.  I did not list these individually but placed an approximate replacement value for them into my inventory sheet.  By the way, this is also necessary in case you have a fire or theft.  No insurance agent is going to believe that you had $10,000-$100,000 worth of train stuff.  Thirty bottles of Floquil paint at current replacement value of $5 per bottle adds up to $150.   Start adding up your financial investment and you will be surprised at how much you have. 

Denny

Janitor in Training

CW Loco and Car Rebuild Shops

WEB site: CWRailman.com 

Facebook: CWRailman 


--- In vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, luvprr@... wrote:
>
> Again, folks, as I've been preaching for some time now, try to give your
> surviving spouse an idea as to where your stuff can go if you pass. Leaving
> it up to he/she to do so "cold turkey" is not a very nice way to ensure the
> most fond memories of you, and often adds more to an already huge burden in
> many cases. Gotta bite the bullet. . .
>
>
> In a message dated 2/1/2013 2:16:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> tenncentralrwy@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> Brad,
> Sorry to hear about the loss of your friend.
> In several similar circumstances around here, I have seen many collections
> sold at model train shows, mostly the locally-produced ones. Sometimes a
> friend or relative will rent a few tables to sell the items. Some clubs
> that sponsor the shows have a “company store” set up where their members man
> the tables and sell items that that are brought in, usually for a small
> fee. The club here in Nashville does that for 10 per cent of the sales
> price.
> Just a couple of ideas for you.
> Steve Johnson
> Nashville, TN
>
>
> From: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vintageHO@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of corlissbs@...
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:17 PM
> To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [vintageHO] Funeral Sale?
>
>
>
>
>
> I just returned from the funeral of a good friend of mine. We bought HO
> kits together for many years, starting in the early 1970's and hobby
> shopped together. He never built his and now his widow has about 600 blue box
> Athearn , TM of Calif., TM of IL, MDC, and other plastic kits of cars and
> locomotives, along with RTR Rivarossi, etc. He was going to build his dream
> layout next year when he would retire. But he died of a heart attack
> instead. Do any of you have any idea what to do with 600 kits that would give
> the woman a fair price? I know that there are the Athearn collectors group,
> but don't know if they are looking for the older stuff or the new stuff.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> Brad Smith
>
> Franklin, WI
>

Group: vintageHO Message: 20837 From: Sean Naylor Date: 2/5/2013
Subject: Re: Instructions needed for MRC SOUND MASTER 210 SOUND MACHINE [1 At
Hi all!

Thank you to anyone that looked for a set of these instructions for me. A PDF file of them has been emailed to me!

Thank you! 
Sean 

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 2, 2013, at 1:40 PM, Sean Naylor <a69mustang4me@...> wrote:

 

Hi All,

I was wondering if anyone has access to a set of instructions for a MRC
Sound Master 210 Sound system.

I could really use a PDF copy, but would take any copy someone is willing to send me.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. 

Thanks.
 
Sean

"If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough!" - Mario Andretti!

Group: vintageHO Message: 20838 From: Walter Bayer II Date: 2/5/2013
Subject: Re: Won't ship to USA...
Steve,

The USPS is domestic US and therefore cannot track internationally. It is dependent upon the foreign postal service to provide the tracking info. Some do, some clearly do not.

Walter in Anguilla

On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Stephen Neubaum <computersystemrebuild@...> wrote:
 

While I haven't done business on eBay in a long time (As one of the things I do professionally is build small business websites for those wanting off eBay, I figured I should set the example), I do know that some places are almost famous for packages not arriving. Italy comes to mind rather quickly.

The US Postal Service's crummy tracking system, pretty much nonexistent for international packages, doesn't help matters.

-Steve Neubaum


Group: vintageHO Message: 20839 From: Stephen Neubaum Date: 2/5/2013
Subject: Re: Won't ship to USA...
Walter,

Correct, as the serial number on the customs form can be plugged into USPS's website and at least show when the package has left the USA, at minimum. Some countries can report back that it is in their hands too, but some can't do that.

-Steve

--- On Tue, 2/5/13, Walter Bayer II <bayerw2@...> wrote:

From: Walter Bayer II <bayerw2@...>
Subject: Re: [vintageHO] Won't ship to USA...
To: vintageHO@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, February 5, 2013, 2:17 PM

 

Steve,


The USPS is domestic US and therefore cannot track internationally. It is dependent upon the foreign postal service to provide the tracking info. Some do, some clearly do not.

Walter in Anguilla

On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Stephen Neubaum <computersystemrebuild@...> wrote:
 

While I haven't done business on eBay in a long time (As one of the things I do professionally is build small business websites for those wanting off eBay, I figured I should set the example), I do know that some places are almost famous for packages not arriving. Italy comes to mind rather quickly.

The US Postal Service's crummy tracking system, pretty much nonexistent for international packages, doesn't help matters.

-Steve Neubaum


Group: vintageHO Message: 20840 From: Sean Naylor Date: 2/5/2013
Subject: Re: Won't ship to USA...
Hi guys!

I've noticed lately a pretty sharp increase in my international sales of vintage HO trains and parts. It used to be I would average 1-2% of my packages going outside of the US. Lately however, it seems I've been averaging between 6-7 or more international packages for every ~50 packages I ship.ately, I have seen large surge in shipments going to South American countries like Chili and Brazil. In fact, one buyer purchased an engine on eBay from me and then purchased two more additional pieces off-eBay. It's almost like these guys are telling their friends.  

Not sure why. I can say the only problem I have with selling internationally is that it usually means the item did not sell very high and there was money left on the table, but US buyers were not willing to spend it. It's not a big enough problem to make me want to stop selling to them though. Funny part is.. I have a couple guys who buy a bunch of stuff, but pay only for the item and ten once every couple months, I send them an invoice for the shipping of one large box and then they receive all their items at once. Seems to work well for both of us. 

Either way, I still offer sales of these vintage pieces internationally. I have stopped shipping to Mexico and Italy however. Mexico postal system is too corrupt and buyers often never receive items. The Italian postal system, if not corrupt, is terribly inefficient. Germany has of late been ok and I've had no problems, but only last year, I had a few packages in a row delayed quite extensively. This was frustrating. 

I do offer things for sale to Italy periodically however. But I insist on Priority shipping only. However, there are a few buyers who I have dealt with several times with in the past and have had no problems, even with the delays. I extend the offer of First Class Int. shipping to these fellows and as it turns out, they are usually the ones who end up buying my items. As in the case with my most recent listing of a very nice condition Rivarossi 4-4-2. 

Since he and I have had several dealings outside of eBay as well, I have no fear there will be any problems with this transaction as well. I'm one of the few he trusts as a source of these vintage Rivarossi parts here in the USA and thusly I and sure he does not wish to lose that source. 

As for the rest of my listings... I block Italy and Mexico completely through the  eBay system from bidding at all. 

As for the International labeling and shipping process... I do it all on line and through eBay and PayPal. It is quick, easy and in addition to the standard domestic label process, it requires only the added individual weight info and a check box on one additional web page before printing the label. After it prints, I sign and day it and that is it. It gets picked up at my door with the rest of the outgoing mail. The only time I have to go to the post office is when a purchase is made outside of eBay by someone. The USPS website does not allow the printing of First Class Int. postage on their site (or even through Papal's Multi-order shipping process.). I do find this frustrating because you can ship F C I through the eBay shipping process. It seems to me, if it can be done there, it should be able to be done elsewhere, either through the PayPal site or USPS website. Either way, I have had little to no problems with international buyers. 

As for buying internationally.... I have only done it twice. Once from the UK and once from Canada. The UK purchase was of a Ulrich SCHLITZ beer truck in awesome shape. Including shipping it was $28. So I thought it was worth the risk. The second was this rather sleazy gent in Canada. His listing was for 15 pounds of vintage HO parts.  His listing showed half a dozen or more kind of fuzzy pictures of several closed boxes w/ Marklin labels and bags filled with what looked like drivers and wheel sets. I bid and paid almost $500 for the lot. When it finally came... It was a couple bags of the wheel inners with no treads and the rest was just what i would call "hardware"... Nuts bolts & screws.   14.5 pounds worth!  The actual "parts" comprised of less than half a pound. Needless to say, I was pissed. There was not a single reference to nuts bolts or screws or even a single photo of one in the listing. Granted, they were all for Marklin trains, but without knowing what they would be used for, they were useless to me. 

It took about two months, several phone calls and two attempts of returning the package before I was finally successful. He kept refusing the package. Finally, with the customs and UPS agents as my whiteness' I went to eBay / PayPal with my return acceptance refusal dilemma and they issued my full refund anyway. I lost ~$100 on the deal and about 6 hours or more in cumulative dealings with the arse. 

He even went so far as to buy (but not pay) something off of me, just to leave me a negative feedback. Well... Once he did this, I informed eBay and it was removed and he was suspended. 

So I think that is my take on the international buying and selling... I'll keep selling to the rest of the world, but I don't even look outside of the USA to buy anymore. 

Hope everyone is doing well!
Sean

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 4, 2013, at 9:56 AM, "cwrailman" <cwrailman@...> wrote:

 

My perspective as a seller occassionally selling to someone over seas.  There are many reasons.  First it is much more costly for just the shipping and even if the buyer pays the extra, it takes more time to fill out all the forms which themselves seem to change periodically and I never know if I have the correct form.  In addition some shipping services, such as the one I normally use because it is close to home, will not except foreign packages so I have to go to the terminal. O r in my case the main post office.  In addition Pay Pal charges more for handling overseas financial transactions depending on the country.  That is not a constant like it is when I sell to someone in the US .  Since many sellers are working on a really tight profit margin some just don't bother with over seas sales.      

Denny

Janitor in Training

CW Loco and Car Rebuild Shops

WEB site: CWRailman.com 

Facebook: CWRailman 
--- In vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, Mike Bauers wrote:
>
> lI'm running across more and more eBay postings that state they won't ship to the USA.
>
> Anyone know why??
>
>
> Mike Bauers
> Sent from my iPhone
>

Group: vintageHO Message: 20841 From: Sean Naylor Date: 2/5/2013
Subject: Re: Won't ship to US
Hi all!

It seems to me that postage to Canada almost doubled!  It used to be I could send a package that weighs 2-3 ounces for under $4.  Now it is almost $7 for a 2 ounce package.  

I was floored this last weekend when I went to print the label. Since the item ended a day or so before the 27th, the eBay  calculated postage rate he paid was almost half what I had to pay. Since I have been laid up for almost 3 weeks now, I did not know about the Postal Rate Increase. I ws also surprised to see they did away with Parcel Post and my ability to print a label for it on line. I was quite frustrated by this since I had one 5 lb package going to Arizona and was not prepared to spend $20+ to ship it there.  

Sean

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 4, 2013, at 7:13 PM, acace@... wrote:

 

Hello All,

I have been shipping items overseas (mostly the UK, OZ and Canada) for
many years. The PO requirements are arcane to say the
least and it is sometimes difficult to tell ahead of time what the cost
will be. Selling on eBay only makes it worse as they require you
to quote a shipping cost when you have no idea where it's going or how
much someone may buy and what the package will weigh.

On Jan. 27th all US postal rates went up. Some overseas rates as much as
40%! I don't know if sending to the US rates also went up.

Dick Waite

Group: vintageHO Message: 20842 From: reed.estabrook Date: 2/6/2013
Subject: Re: Won't ship to USA...
Hi All -

Sean's great note says it well! I have been dealing on eBay for about
15 years and have seen a lot - my worst problems have been with
Australia, although I have some great customers there, as well. PayPal
has made it better by far, but eBay keeps getting worse re shipping by
forcing you to give a one covers all shipping charge. I always give
customer the Custom Label #, so they have at least something to check
with.

Reed


---- Original Message ----
From: Sean Naylor <a69mustang4me@...>
To: vintageHO <vintageHO@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Feb 6, 2013 1:50 am
Subject: Re: [vintageHO] Re: Won't ship to USA...






Hi guys!


I've noticed lately a pretty sharp increase in my international sales
of vintage HO trains and parts. It used to be I would average 1-2% of
my packages going outside of the US. Lately however, it seems I've been
averaging between 6-7 or more international packages for every ~50
packages I ship.ately, I have seen large surge in shipments going to
South American countries like Chili and Brazil. In fact, one buyer
purchased an engine on eBay from me and then purchased two more
additional pieces off-eBay. It's almost like these guys are telling
their friends.  


Not sure why. I can say the only problem I have with selling
internationally is that it usually means the item did not sell very
high and there was money left on the table, but US buyers were not
willing to spend it. It's not a big enough problem to make me want to
stop selling to them though. Funny part is.. I have a couple guys who
buy a bunch of stuff, but pay only for the item and ten once every
couple months, I send them an invoice for the shipping of one large box
and then they receive all their items at once. Seems to work well for
both of us. 


Either way, I still offer sales of these vintage pieces
internationally. I have stopped shipping to Mexico and Italy however.
Mexico postal system is too corrupt and buyers often never receive
items. The Italian postal system, if not corrupt, is terribly
inefficient. Germany has of late been ok and I've had no problems, but
only last year, I had a few packages in a row delayed quite
extensively. This was frustrating. 


I do offer things for sale to Italy periodically however. But I insist
on Priority shipping only. However, there are a few buyers who I have
dealt with several times with in the past and have had no problems,
even with the delays. I extend the offer of First Class Int. shipping
to these fellows a nd as it turns out, they are usually the ones who
end up buying my items. As in the case with my most recent listing of a
very nice condition Rivarossi 4-4-2. 


Since he and I have had several dealings outside of eBay as well, I
have no fear there will be any problems with this transaction as well.
I'm one of the few he trusts as a source of these vintage Rivarossi
parts here in the USA and thusly I and sure he does not wish to lose
that source. 


As for the rest of my listings... I block Italy and Mexico completely
through the  eBay system from bidding at all. 


As for the International labeling and shipping process... I do it all
on line and through eBay and PayPal. It is quick, easy and in addition
to the standard domestic label process, it requires only the added
individual weight info and a check box on one additional web page
before printing the label. After it prints, I sign an d day it and that
is it. It gets picked up at my door with the rest of the outgoing mail.
The only time I have to go to the post office is when a purchase is
made outside of eBay by someone. The USPS website does not allow the
printing of First Class Int. postage on their site (or even through
Papal's Multi-order shipping process.). I do find this frustrating
because you can ship F C I through the eBay shipping process. It seems
to me, if it can be done there, it should be able to be done elsewhere,
either through the PayPal site or USPS website. Either way, I have had
little to no problems with international buyers. 


As for buying internationally.... I have only done it twice. Once from
the UK and once from Canada. The UK purchase was of a Ulrich SCHLITZ
beer truck in awesome shape. Including shipping it was $28. So I
thought it was worth the risk. The second was this rather sleazy gent
in Canada. His listing was for 15 pounds of vintage HO par ts.  His
listing showed half a dozen or more kind of fuzzy pictures of several
closed boxes w/ Marklin labels and bags filled with what looked like
drivers and wheel sets. I bid and paid almost $500 for the lot. When it
finally came... It was a couple bags of the wheel inners with no treads
and the rest was just what i would call "hardware"... Nuts bolts &
screws.   14.5 pounds worth!  The actual "parts" comprised of less than
half a pound. Needless to say, I was pissed. There was not a single
reference to nuts bolts or screws or even a single photo of one in the
listing. Granted, they were all for Marklin trains, but without knowing
what they would be used for, they were useless to me. 


It took about two months, several phone calls and two attempts of
returning the package before I was finally successful. He kept refusing
the package. Finally, with the customs and UPS agents as my whiteness'
I went to eBay / PayPal with my re turn acceptance refusal dilemma and
they issued my full refund anyway. I lost ~$100 on the deal and about 6
hours or more in cumulative dealings with the arse. 


He even went so far as to buy (but not pay) something off of me, just
to leave me a negative feedback. Well... Once he did this, I informed
eBay and it was removed and he was suspended. 


So I think that is my take on the international buying and selling...
I'll keep selling to the rest of the world, but I don't even look
outside of the USA to buy anymore. 


Hope everyone is doing well!
Sean

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 4, 2013, at 9:56 AM, "cwrailman" <cwrailman@...> wrote:



 


My perspective as a seller occassionally selling to someone over seas. 
There are many reasons.  First it is much more costly for just the
shipping and even if the buyer pays the extra, it takes more time to
fill out all the forms which themselves seem to change periodically and
I never know if I have the correct form.  In addition some shipping
services, such as the one I normally use because it is close to home,
will not except foreign packages so I have to go to the terminal. Or in
my case the main post office.  In addition Pay Pal charges more for
handling overseas financial transactions depending on the country. 
That is not a constant like it is when I sell to someone in the US.
 Since many sellers are working on a really tight profit margin some
just don't bothe r with over seas sales.      
Denny
Janitor in Training
CW Loco and Car Rebuild Shops
WEB site: CWRailman.com 
Facebook: CWRailman 
--- In vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, Mike Bauers wrote:
>
> lI'm running across more and more eBay postings that state they won't
ship to the USA.
>
> Anyone know why??
>
>
> Mike Bauers
> Sent from my iPhone
>
Group: vintageHO Message: 20843 From: johnhutnick Date: 2/6/2013
Subject: Walthers MU
I have a Walthers MU Coach kit, unused, Long Island, #7522, arch roof. Has roof, floor, sides, ends, castings bag, good original box, instructions dated 1949. Did not come with power. $25 + shipping. If interested, contact me off list.
Group: vintageHO Message: 20844 From: cwrailman Date: 2/6/2013
Subject: Running trains in Dual DC/DCC mode

I apologize for using the term DCC on this board however stay with me on this. 

For those of us who enjoy running vintage models DC is the most popular method of powering our trains.  However sometimes, go ahead you can admit to this, we would like to enjoy the benefits of having sound enhance our operating experience.  Some of us have either purchased sound equipped locomotives or have considered doing so however we have a large investment in DC equipment and even the suggestion of making a complete conversion to DCC is kin to blasphemy.  Check out my 02/06/2013 Blog for a relatively inexpensive system that allows you to have your cake and ….  Well, you get the point.

Denny

Janitor in Training

CW Loco and Car Rebuild Shops

WEB site: CWRailman.com 

Facebook: CWRailman 

Group: vintageHO Message: 20845 From: river_dweller_ohio Date: 2/7/2013
Subject: (no subject)
Group: vintageHO Message: 20846 From: Carl Date: 2/7/2013
Subject: Athearn Metal Side Reefer from 1949
Hello--Just received an Athearn litho printed metal side Fruit Growers Express reefer with an instruction sheet copyright 1949. This particular model appears in neither the 1948 nor 1952 catalogs shown in the Links portion of the group. My initial conclusion is that it was offered for, at most, three years (1949-51).

The paint scheme used on the model is "dead on" the prototype through early 1949. Although the prototype scheme was modified twice between late 1949 and late 1951, neither change would have necessarily required that the model sides be reprinted (with door hardware, grabs, and ladders separate, the only side change would have been to repaint the kick plate under the door, which could have been easily accomplished by the modeler).

Since I know next to nothing about Uncle Irv's metal offerings, I'd appreciate your insights and information about this model and why it's production may have ceased so soon (i.e.--shortage of war-critical materials, poor sales, etc.???).

Thanks, in advance, for any information and insights.

Best Wishes--Carl

Carl G. Camann
Atlanta, GA
Group: vintageHO Message: 20847 From: Rick Jones Date: 2/7/2013
Subject: Latest Find
I picked up an FSM Ezra Cooper's Garage yesterday at one of the
LHSs. It was on consignment for just $75. Quite a surprise when they're
going for between $150-275 at dealers online. And, yes, it appears
everything is there.
One question: on the box end it just says "Cooper's Garage", no
"Ezra's." Were they all labeled this way?

--

Rick Jones

"They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them."
-Stephen Wright
Group: vintageHO Message: 20848 From: cwrailman Date: 2/7/2013
Subject: Re: Latest Find

The actual name of the kit is Ezra Coopers Garage.  

Denny

Janitor in Training

CW Loco and Car Rebuild Shops

WEB site: CWRailman.com 

Facebook: CWRailman 
--- In vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, Rick Jones wrote:
>
> I picked up an FSM Ezra Cooper's Garage yesterday at one of the
> LHSs. It was on consignment for just $75. Quite a surprise when they're
> going for between $150-275 at dealers online. And, yes, it appears
> everything is there.
> One question: on the box end it just says "Cooper's Garage", no
> "Ezra's." Were they all labeled this way?
>
> --
>
> Rick Jones
>
> "They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them."
> -Stephen Wright
>
Group: vintageHO Message: 20849 From: rxensen Date: 2/8/2013
Subject: Re: Athearn Metal Side Reefer from 1949
My Greensburg guide to Athearn lists these
Fruit Growers Express as FDEX #9200,9222,0226,9227,9236,9245,9250,9252,9253,9254,9255,9257,9259,9262,9272,
9277. listing it as A-404. A 1950 date,
Ron Christensen

--- In vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, "Carl" wrote:
>
> Hello--Just received an Athearn litho printed metal side Fruit Growers Express reefer with an instruction sheet copyright 1949. This particular model appears in neither the 1948 nor 1952 catalogs shown in the Links portion of the group. My initial conclusion is that it was offered for, at most, three years (1949-51).
>
> The paint scheme used on the model is "dead on" the prototype through early 1949. Although the prototype scheme was modified twice between late 1949 and late 1951, neither change would have necessarily required that the model sides be reprinted (with door hardware, grabs, and ladders separate, the only side change would have been to repaint the kick plate under the door, which could have been easily accomplished by the modeler).
>
> Since I know next to nothing about Uncle Irv's metal offerings, I'd appreciate your insights and information about this model and why it's production may have ceased so soon (i.e.--shortage of war-critical materials, poor sales, etc.???).
>
> Thanks, in advance, for any information and insights.
>
> Best Wishes--Carl
>
> Carl G. Camann
> Atlanta, GA
>
Group: vintageHO Message: 20850 From: erieberk Date: 2/8/2013
Subject: Re: Athearn Metal Side Reefer from 1949
Carl,

In going to the links portion of this Group, I find no listing for Athearn catalogs (or any other listing for catalogs), so I don't know where you found the 1948 or 1951 Athearn catalogs you mention. Not having all catalogs by every manufacturer here, I can't verify your finding that the Athearn metal A-404 FGEX (F.D.E.X.) reefer does not appear in them, but rest assured that this car was produced for at least 5 years.

While it very well may not have been produced as early as 1948, Athearn's line of metal cars that year consisted only of box cars, and an incomplete selection of roadnames of them at that date; additional box car roadnames were added up until 1954. Likewise, for his selection of reefer roadnames. The earliest production was the few box cars having no catalog numbers, and which comparatively fewer were made -- making them harder to find for collectors. Many other box cars were introduced later in 1948.

If, as you state, the Fruit Growers Express reefer was not included in the 1952 Athearn catalog, I have no explanation for that, although I haven't seen it. As your instruction sheet for this car is dated 1949 -- as are also a number of mine, for the FGEX -- this is of course the first year that this and all other metal refrigerator cars were produced (as were the metal tank cars). My early 1950 Athearn catalog -- same as my very good friend, the late Roy Scott's catalog shown on page 31 of the Greenberg's Athearn Guide -- includes this FGEX reefer. Additionally, my 1953 Athearn catalog includes this same car (as I indicated to Dallas Mallerich when I was helping him with the book), so we know it was produced at least from 1949 through 1953 inclusive. Would it have been dropped for one year (1952 ?), I really doubt it. It may also have been produced even later but we don't know (the BAR reefer had just been introduced in 1954, and it would seem logical that Irv did not just produce just that one metal reefer that year, but quite possibly continued all other roadnames).

Once the artwork for any of the car kits' paint schemes were decided upon, there were no changes to the painting. While you suggest some slight changes that could have been made (presumedly by the modeler), and while the prototype scheme was modified twice after 1949, up through 1951, it would be assumed that these changes were not made to the same prototype roadnumbers that were produced in earlier years but to newly manufactured prototype FGEX reefers (with higher roadnumbers). To change the paint scheme at all on Athearn's numbered FGEX reefers, also having their printed-on (and earlier than 1950 and 1951) build dates would not be modeling prototypically so there'd be no need to make these changes you mentioned -- unless you also changed the roadnumber (and build date) on these car sides to correspond with the newly (1950 or 1951) manufactured prototype FGEX reefers, but then why would you?.

Ray Wetzel



--- In vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, "Carl" wrote:
>
> Hello--Just received an Athearn litho printed metal side Fruit Growers Express reefer with an instruction sheet copyright 1949. This particular model appears in neither the 1948 nor 1952 catalogs shown in the Links portion of the group. My initial conclusion is that it was offered for, at most, three years (1949-51).
>
> The paint scheme used on the model is "dead on" the prototype through early 1949. Although the prototype scheme was modified twice between late 1949 and late 1951, neither change would have necessarily required that the model sides be reprinted (with door hardware, grabs, and ladders separate, the only side change would have been to repaint the kick plate under the door, which could have been easily accomplished by the modeler).
>
> Since I know next to nothing about Uncle Irv's metal offerings, I'd appreciate your insights and information about this model and why it's production may have ceased so soon (i.e.--shortage of war-critical materials, poor sales, etc.???).
>
> Thanks, in advance, for any information and insights.
>
> Best Wishes--Carl
>
> Carl G. Camann
> Atlanta, GA
>
Group: vintageHO Message: 20851 From: erieberk Date: 2/8/2013
Subject: Re: Athearn Metal Side Reefer from 1949
Ron,

Yes, the author (Dallas Mallerich) of the Greenberg Athearn's Guide decided to use this 1950 date for the A-404 FGEX (F.D.E.X.) reefer, as well as for 8 other reefer roadnames out of the dozen that were produced. Two roadnames (Swift/S.R.L.X. and Armour/A.R.L.X.) have no dates in their descriptions, while one roadname -- B.A.R. ("State of Maine") has 1954.

Most often, these date are used to signify when the model was first introduced -- but doesn't indicate the only year it was offered nor the latest date it was offered. Acknowledging that the FGEX reefer was first introduced by Athearn in 1949, the 1950 date in the Guide appears to be an error, but then, minor errors can be expected in many of these Guides. Probably about the best that some of these dates indicate is the era that these models first became more prevalent on the market as far as availability.

A single date, such as 1950, is not meant to provide the production duration except when a time span is shown; like 1955-1958. Most (although not all) of the Athearn metal kits that were first introduced in 1948 are still found in the 1953 catalog. Two typical examples are the 40' A-125 S.A.L. box car and the 50' A-204 A.T.S.F Express automobile car. The 40' A-175 B&O "Sentinel" is another example, all picked at random from the Greenberg Guide (pages 50, 54 and 51, consecutively.

As the first Athearn plastic box cars weren't introduced until early 1957, and as Athearn kit boxes designated only to hold Athearn metal car kits were produced as late as 1953-1957, 1955-1956 and 1956-1960, it's seen by this that metal car kits were still being manufactured well over 10 years after first being marketed. There's the very good chance that the A-404 F.D.E.X. was still being manufactured well after the 1953 catalog it was included in.

Ray Wetzel





--- In vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, "rxensen" wrote:
>
> My Greensburg guide to Athearn lists these
> Fruit Growers Express as FDEX #9200,9222,0226,9227,9236,9245,9250,9252,9253,9254,9255,9257,9259,9262,9272,
> 9277. listing it as A-404. A 1950 date,
> Ron Christensen
>
> --- In vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, "Carl" wrote:
> >
> > Hello--Just received an Athearn litho printed metal side Fruit Growers Express reefer with an instruction sheet copyright 1949. This particular model appears in neither the 1948 nor 1952 catalogs shown in the Links portion of the group. My initial conclusion is that it was offered for, at most, three years (1949-51).
> >
> > The paint scheme used on the model is "dead on" the prototype through early 1949. Although the prototype scheme was modified twice between late 1949 and late 1951, neither change would have necessarily required that the model sides be reprinted (with door hardware, grabs, and ladders separate, the only side change would have been to repaint the kick plate under the door, which could have been easily accomplished by the modeler).
> >
> > Since I know next to nothing about Uncle Irv's metal offerings, I'd appreciate your insights and information about this model and why it's production may have ceased so soon (i.e.--shortage of war-critical materials, poor sales, etc.???).
> >
> > Thanks, in advance, for any information and insights.
> >
> > Best Wishes--Carl
> >
> > Carl G. Camann
> > Atlanta, GA
> >
>
Group: vintageHO Message: 20852 From: erieberk Date: 2/9/2013
Subject: Re: Athearn Metal Side Reefer from 1949
Carl,

To add to my recent post, I just now came across my 1954 Athearn catalog and a newer one (which contains only the series of plastic models). The 1954 Athearn catalog contains your Athearn metal A-404 F.D.E.X. refrigerator car, so this is an addition year that it was produced. It would be reasonable to believe it was produced, along with the rest of the metal line, right up to the end of the metal car production in 1960, or at least very close to it. It certainly did not have poor sales, as you may be suggesting. I doubt if any of these cars had poor sales, although some may have been even more popular than others.

Ray Wetzel



--- In vintageHO@yahoogroups.com, "Carl" wrote:
>
> Hello--Just received an Athearn litho printed metal side Fruit Growers Express reefer with an instruction sheet copyright 1949. This particular model appears in neither the 1948 nor 1952 catalogs shown in the Links portion of the group. My initial conclusion is that it was offered for, at most, three years (1949-51).
>
> The paint scheme used on the model is "dead on" the prototype through early 1949. Although the prototype scheme was modified twice between late 1949 and late 1951, neither change would have necessarily required that the model sides be reprinted (with door hardware, grabs, and ladders separate, the only side change would have been to repaint the kick plate under the door, which could have been easily accomplished by the modeler).
>
> Since I know next to nothing about Uncle Irv's metal offerings, I'd appreciate your insights and information about this model and why it's production may have ceased so soon (i.e.--shortage of war-critical materials, poor sales, etc.???).
>
> Thanks, in advance, for any information and insights.
>
> Best Wishes--Carl
>
> Carl G. Camann
> Atlanta, GA
>
Group: vintageHO Message: 20853 From: Carl Date: 2/9/2013
Subject: Re: Athearn Metal Side Reefer from 1949
Ron & Ray--Thanks for the specific information. What is particularly interesting is not onl